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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. A Class Rule 8 needs to stay.

    Be careful of what you wish for. Thinking that development will continue down the current path once rule 8 has been removed is naive. Rule changes tend to lead to unintended consequences. Predicting the future with known constraints in place is difficult, removing those constraints makes it that much harder. Using the current foiling catamarans as examples of what my happen is wrong, as they are currently either one design, or constrained by their own set of rules. To imagine what may happen by starting with the current A class catamaran and making changes to it may not be the best way of looking at things. It may be better to think of what the ultimate foiler may be, then tweaking it to fit into the A class rules, minus rule 8. I would imagine it will be less like evolution, and more like the creation of a new species. If foiling on all legs of the course is possible, the roles of the hulls will change. Will they need to be the same length and volume as current? If we are foiling upwind, windward heel will be good, moving the hulls closer to the centreline will aid this. You of course will still want max righting moment, so trapezing racks may be a good idea. Wands are out so the foils themselve will need to control ride height, so maybe a V that slots into the bottom of each hull (or not, do they still need to attach to the hulls?) no need to raise or lower them, so fit on the beach and carry out sideways. The rig of a full foiler will probably be different as well. Alsmost certainly lower aspect. Will the increase in top end speed mean that a lower sail area will be better, or just a more flexible rig to really blade out better. Will wing section masts still be the go, or will they be too heavy, remembering you want to be able to heel to windward when going upwind. I imagine a really cool foiling boat could be created, but is this the direction current A class sailors wish to head? I am a little worried about it. When I chose the A, it was over the moth because I sail off of a beach with breaking waves. Launching is a bigger consideration than some people realise.