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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. A very pretty potential...imagine all varnished and gleaming....wonder if CB only, keel or CB/keel combo and weight...nice cotton sails. Time lock...very kewl. Very kewl.
  2. There is also the idea that people will participate once, and out, in a sort of "been there and done that" sort of thing. Not like old days!
  3. Where you boyos getting data and pics?
  4. I used to hang at Crystal Lake...back when it was shamefully "restricted." Wife's uncle and fam go way back. Still have cemetery out on 76 or whatever it is north of 14...and schoolhouse...and maybe more. I think most of the farm has been sub divided..sad...hunted pheasants long tracks just north of city limits. But now, one traffic experience on 14 and you are glad to get gone... Have niece living in town now and couple shirt-tail relatives...McMillans. I think best rig for lake is a M boat of some sort, even an X...The Snark is really "snarky" - a disaster, the Jay is way over-priced, but that is the area... Sojourn to Fontana or Geneva for decent rigs...with purse... Maybe hit Zenda when they Melges fam dumps inventory...great deals...I mean very good deals.
  5. NiIce! .Bouyed, Cradle or trailer? Wonder if someone lived on it? Would def be looking...used to live near basin...wish I still did weather-wyze.
  6. Ah, of course, Es bigger bro...might just be... both respectable boats. E is shorter, Holt...have no clue...but looks to be one or other...slick...deal if decent shape and sails are not blown or shot. I would look at it and smile. Guessing with no info owner has no clue and no sails. Ya never know.
  7. Sad, but I harbor some jetsam that a race to Havana might replace it?
  8. RMDanko, My first impulse is to say it is an Enterprise...the chines, but I did not go over it carefully. If an Enterprise, and all there and glass might be very good deal...Trailers can look dismal but end up very functional with little work...tires are cheap and wiring can be nudged, if messed. E's are many for a reason...only weird thing used to be the sails had to be blue for some odd reason.
  9. LT 18 waa also wondering similar. Tom, i do not think you need to haul and flip boat...maybe get one of those small Ryobi construction/picture hanging lasers (long straight line projections) and match to centerboard fore/aft line-up and each outrigger...? Lasers are very fast helpful. Are tri hulls set slightly toed in? Ackerman thing? Lots of stuff here. Kinda interesting conundrum.
  10. Wings...were wings pooh-poohed last year or so as dangerous? Some one here bought a winged boat and removed them...and posted the project also, Wonder if the same class? Good looking rig,
  11. You know, did not realize the Bongo is a keel boat. Dig it even more...check this video link...sucker looks to be self-righting... https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEV7gIgCZZ51gAHmcnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTEybjF0cWI2BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDQjM4ODZfMQRzZWMDc2M-?p=Bongo+Sailboat&fr=yhs-mozilla-003&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-003#id=4&vid=e678f0f5d789a801be61720beb669465&action=view I don't know about $4K worth of self-righting, but it sure is intriguing.
  12. Dig it! But I bet it is a sob to get back in after a KO. Like my Kite...could bring it up with finger on CB, and then the work began...wind pressure made it climbing back in harder, but was a nice Finn-like ride also, wet rump and all.
  13. I like Proa Sailor's idea...but not as simple as it sound...getting tow etc. Still, might help in quiet water... Tom K. Curious...how can trunk be culpret, if board is on line...if you get my drift. Like I say interesting...must be a banshee.
  14. Side slip with board up makes sense...you have single board on Astus16 right? Interesting...Might try using s laser beam to determine "squareness?" Interesting conundrum. Tom, I know squat, might go also go over to beachcats and ask there also. Lot of young cats there. I know boatdesign,net does have a few naval architects aboard and they helped me much, when up against problem building Gnarly... I wish I knew more but am sure you can do better with another. Your problem does have me thinking...
  15. Lamorak, I tilt dagger to move center of effort to increase or decrease weather helm...your comment also suggests that TK's board is canted...You did not do whole case, only top section? Had some room I presume...y'all did what I would do, one at a time...with notes.