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  1. eurochild

    Wind Limits - Where are they

    We as SA readers can wait. The problem is that the challengers are 1 1/2 boats into a 2 boat design process that costs tens of millions of dollars, and they won't know their wind range target for up to 2 more months. Meanwhile ETNZ may have a pretty good idea about what the rules will be and what they are designing to. (Edit: And can anyway just frame the range to suit their boat.) If I was a designer on a challenger I don't think I'd be feeling too patient, and would possibly be feeling a bit screwed over.
  2. eurochild

    Wind Limits - Where are they

    That doesn't really work does it? It will just end up in brinksmanship. i.e. "I reckon my boat will drift faster than yours" or "I reckon your boat will break before mine".
  3. eurochild

    sandbagging

    I missed this at the time and have seen it mentioned here more than once... anyone got a link?
  4. eurochild

    AC Rugby

    Gee that's not too diplomatic. Laughing about the elbow is one thing. Taking photos of yourself drinking with Welshmen after that knock on call though...
  5. eurochild

    AC Rugby

    You'd also have to shorten the game to about 40m otherwise we'd be here all day. Slightly more seriously... despite the amount of time wasted on scrums in particular, I hope they don't go this path. It's a slippery slope to interminable advertising breaks and braindead players being instructed on a play by play basis. Watching players have to think for themselves is part of the charm of un-American sports. As for changing the points, best be happy with what we've got! Or the Poms might want to revert to original rules - where a try was worth nothing and only earned you the chance to score from a conversion.
  6. eurochild

    Wind Limits - Where are they

    Thanks for the pointer. That text is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eQ2K8qXKCneH6UsLoXTWXgqZ-YH1i6H9/view Section 18 then talks about Challenger Series conditions being a variation of these.
  7. eurochild

    AC Rugby

    True - if we were playing a different sport their accuracy would be less useful. ;-)
  8. eurochild

    AC Rugby

    That would be all right. They kick OK though.
  9. (I've harped on about this in a couple of team threads but it's not really team specific) You can make the case that the AC75 class is a bit mad, and that the class and other factors have lead to reduced participation in AC36, some delays in schedule, and so on. However that aside, the regatta seems to be being planned in a reasonably straightforward and above board sort of way. (Could be a bit of NZ bias there - but bear with me, criticism to follow...) I can't understand how we've got this far without wind limits being defined. The story as I understand it - even if wind limits are defined, AC design is often perceived as a gamble on wind. With the boats often being so close in design, guessing which end of the range to design for is often made out to be of critical importance. - wind in Auckland in summer isn't that predictable at the best of times - with the AC75 class, assumptions about time spent in displacement vs transition vs foiling may mean that wind range has an even greater impact on design. The variation in boat 1 designs doesn't do this theory any harm - it seems to be conventional wisdom that due to build duration, the teams would currently be well into designing their race boats. There's the Dalton quote that gets thrown around that the winning decisions have probably already been made. - ETNZ have been sailing their boat in low wind, including with a code zero. Some say they are trying to establish a viable lower limit for foiling. - commentary on this situation from the other teams seems a bit muted. There's a comment from Nick Holroyd in this article, but he hardly seems to be panicking about it; https://mailchi.mp/tipandshaft/tip-shaft-45-nholroyd-everybody-is-watching-everybody-how-the-organisers-of-the-vende-globe-expanded-the-list-of-registered-skippers?e=e564adae35 . From the situation above, I'd think that the other teams would be well within their rights to nudge ETNZ along with a bit of a moan. - discussion is mostly about what's the viable lower limit to avoid a displacement drift-fest. There's also the question of how high you can go without either making these boats significantly more dangerous or damage prone, or expanding the range enough that the design becomes even more of a gamble. So, my question is, how to square this circle. 1. The limits seem crucial to design. 2. There are no limits yet and second boats are in progress. 3. The other teams aren't visibly up in arms. What's missing here.
  10. eurochild

    sandbagging

    It's a good question, because there seems to be strong pros and cons. A big lesson of the last 2 Cups for NZ has been the benefit of not playing all the cards to early). OTOH new ideas in this radical class need to be validated. I reckon for anything that needs modelling they can't rev frequently - hulls and foils for example, they'd have built something along the lines of the target so they can validate. For systems stuff that doesn't need modelling and can by rule be revised (and I'm not sure exactly what falls under that rule, but I'd be thinking mainsail configs, any setup tricks like the bikes), they'd try to hold that back if at all possible. But who knows! Quite possible that with a focus on handling and systems in boat 1 a team might have gone with a massive red herring for hull shape...
  11. eurochild

    Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36

    Good point but you could interpret this in different ways - for example that ETNZ and LR iterated to the current rule in a certain direction and brought some assumptions to the design, whereas the other 2 teams saw the rule afresh and had a "cleaner" sheet of paper. Taking an example, AM and INEOS have the less conventional bows, so certainly they would have given consideration to (read: modelled the hell out of) more "boatlike" bows a la ETNZ and LR. They made a deliberate and presumably well-considered decision to try something different for this new class. I think if you're going to talk about Defender advantage a more fruitful place to go might be to talk about wind limits (see discussion a few pages back). If the designs differ in part based on assumptions about the relative importance of displacement vs transition vs foiling, then ETNZ delaying communication of wind limits, whilst presumably having some understanding in their design team of where they are going, seems a huge factor. Not that it's that straightforward of course - even with knowledge of wind limits you may be guessing at how the matchplay will work (in terms of the different phases), and of course you don't know the actual wind that will blow in 2021. Edit: wind limit discussion was on the NZ thread not this one ;-)
  12. eurochild

    Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36

    Would be fascinating to know which (if any) syndicates are frantically assessing options that they didn't (seriously) consider, that another syndicate has gone with. You'd think they'll probably rerun the relevant sims as due diligence at least to try to see what the other teams were thinking but would there likely be some options on display that other teams didn't look into in detail? Which boat if any will prove to be the consensus design for boat 2? Great stuff.
  13. By not announcing wind limits for the races when the teams are already designing their second boats, it seems like ETNZ are giving themselves an unfair advantage over the challengers. Has any informal understanding been reached in the interim? What are ETNZ's plans about announcing wind limits?
  14. eurochild

    Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36

    Not a bad call. Or see if they could get away with just the rudder, it still sticks out a mile. The matte black looks great but I still think LR missed a trick not going silver or white. We're going to have 4 black (or black + graffiti) boats. Let's hope the Italians can at least lift the game with their uniforms, those are all a dirge on the other boats too.
  15. eurochild

    Team NYYC

    Boat looks great, exciting to see that fever dream of a concept video coming to life! Not that it matters of course but the AM media situation is a bit strange - no official launch, no fan or media photos, just a couple of pictures released without comment... I presume there’s some sort of formal launch scheduled or are they skipping that? Also hopefully we’ll get some sailor interviews, not that they’d be fully open about things but keen to hear what they make of their new toy. (disclaimer - haven’t been following the AM thread blow by blow)