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  1. The Tornado was a class rule set, and in the beginning, anyone could build a stressed ply Tornado (if they had the skill-set). As an Engineering student, I built a scale model of the hulls using balsa wood . . . just to understand how a stressed plywood construction created that amazing hull shape. At that time, there was an owner in the San Francisco Bay Area who had a natural wood finished Tornado and it was an amazing object. There were several builders (Panther Craft, Sail Craft) putting out fiberglass boats. As I understand it (while I stepped away to raise a family) the professional builders became . . . just Marstrom? Who went on to create the Tornado made of 'exotic' materials around the end of the 90s, with the new rig (?). Was it at that point the Tornado Class became a class with a single builder? The relevance here is that I think the Laser started as a PRODUCT (like Hobie) of a builder, who encouraged racing. How did the International Laser Class Association come into being? Other dinghies before the Laser started as a design that anyone (including individuals) could build. The Designers were famous sailors/racers. Tcatman, do you still own a Tornado?
  2. I've been away from things a while- Is RS Sailing a sole manufacturer of a line of boats? Is there a separate class organization? I'm not living in the past, but I remember it. Perhaps we've moved past the paradigm where a class is defined by a set of rules, and anyone can build a class boat. Is the current paradigm having a collection of builders all competing against each other with different offerings?
  3. I started reading this thread and decided this is the place to jump in. I used to race (first El Toro, then FJ, then Fireball and Tornado Catamaran in San Francisco Bay, starting in the 70s. I seemed to me that a 'class' was a boat that fit a set of rules. Anyone could (if they had the skills) build a boat: (my grandfather built my mother's El Toro) my father built my El Toro). I worked for a builder. We built boats that qualified to be in classes (El Toro, FJ, Fireball). Then came mass production (think Hobie, which appealed to sailors (beach cat types), and at the beginning, some racers ), I remember when the Laser (another mass production class) came out. This changed things. To race a Laser, you bought a Laser. If there was only one builder, you bought it from them. A small proportion of Sailors become Racers. The Racers are the ones who are vested in there being a strong class association that publishes the design specifications that defines the class. Racers support the class association. Buyers (whether they race or not) support the builders. Seems to me the wheels came off when a builder was able to trademark a class. So perhaps a Class Association should publish a set of specs, and trademark the class emblem and we get back to letting sailors be sailors (who buy whatever) and racers be racers (who race one design, i.e. a class). If you want to race and don't own a boat that conforms to a class rule . . . then you aren't racing one design. The issue is those that want to compete on a very strict one design rule. They've boxed themselves into a single builder. 'ILCA' can recognize the Laser Logo, and can recognize another logo (the ILCA logo?) and let the racers sort it out on the racecourse. How about an ILCA logo for a development class. That would take the wind out of the LP sails. FYI, the El Toro is gone, but I still have a Fireball and a Tornado.
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    Will there be a torrent for today's broadcast (even with no sailing) ?
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    A big Thank You to Rudder, and everyone else on this thread. I was able to watch the NBC Sports Network broadcast, so stepped away for a few days. But I feel confident that I won't miss anything if I can't continue watching live. I'm a newbie when it comes to bittorrent, and am very grateful for all the help I've gotten here to get my feet wet.
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    Thanks InnerVoid for the explanation. I was able to watch the NBC Sports Network broadcast, so stepped away for a few days. garpgarp posted some trackers (on Friday) I added them and did a 'force reannounce to all trackers' - that move got it started again.
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    I was able to watch the NBC Sports Network broadcast, so stepped away for a few days. garpgarp posted some trackers (on Friday) I added them and did a 'force reannounce to all trackers' - that move got it started again.
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    What does it mean if qtorrent shows 'Stalled' in the Status column? Don't know how to 'unstall it', so I'm downloading the files from the google drive. If anyone can help me use qtorrent, I would appreciate it.
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    ah, ok, that's helpful. maybe that's why his replies to questions in the farce that calls itself the 'press conference' seem so . . . wooden?
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    Isn't Peter Burling the skipper?, or is he the helmsman? I'm a little confused.
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    I like the fact that the New Zealand boat is sailed by sailors from New Zealand, I wish the 'America's Cup' hadn't become the Sir Russell Coutts Cup I hope that if America loses, it won't be to Sir Ben Anisile (which looks pretty unlikely right now), I'm in San Francisco, so I just can't feel good about an 'America's Cup', managed by Sir Russell Coutts, where all of the skippers are 'America's Cup' 'mates'. So, yes, I'm happy for Peter Burling and New Zealand, there is hope yet, and thanks TimBits for the background. New Zealand must be proud.
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    If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it . . . This thread is about the racing replays, so I think it's appropriate for most of it to be dedicated to how we can see this stuff. I'm in San Francisco and my internet provider is the Xfinity service by comcast. I can tune in for 2 hours to watch the NBC Sports Network broadcast, But it is like getting lost in the forest: Oh! Look!, Artemas is ahead! (cut to a commercial . . .) Now New Zealand is ahead [how did that happen] (cut to a scene of about 30 people in bleachers, all of whom start to wave at themselves when they see themselves in the broadcast . . .) Now New Zealand is rounding a mark . . . how far back is Artemas . . . wait for them to get around the mark and maybe we'll see (if we don't cut to a commercial) - wait! a ribbon is finally at the bottom of the screen: the races are postphoned, were are showing replays from . . . while we wait for wind.. hmm I think the funniest moment today was when a commentator said something like "there is a huge crowd of spectator's in the race village" . . . then they cut to a shot of the race village, and there are maybe 30 people milling about. So here is an interesting thought - this round seems to be all about 3 boats tied for last place. Just like American TV, it's all about who will be kicked off the island. ---------- But seriously, at the start of the series I got the impression that New Zealand was going to be at the end of the standings, with Artemis nipping at the heels of Oracle. Now it looks like . . . something very different, and I haven't got a clue who the skipper of the New Zealand boat is, or where he came from.
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    I don't have any experience with any of this, but I can confirm that qBittorrent v3.3.12 worked for me once I realized could right click on the filename within the software and 'open container' to figure out where the files were. Then I could just doubleclick on the filename and windows media player would play them. - another set of files somehow wound up somewhere else and when I double clicked on them, WMP would not play them. So there was some initial confusion
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    Thanks for including your snip - I've downloaded qBittorrent v3.3.12 and it appears to be downloading
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    I finally figured out that (maybe) I can watch it live here in San Francisco on NBC Sports . . . that is if my infinity cable package includes NBC Sports . . . I'm going to try to tune in tomorrow, but I think watching what Rudder is providing us is going to be better.