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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Naw, you right. They out. I thought it means BACK in the ring, but no. Well in that case the whole thing sucks balls.
  2. Aw. Crap. Thought I say something somewhere else too. See if I can find it.
  3. Titanium cast parts plus a shite load of development.
  4. Well, about the only good thing I can see about the revised AC48 rule is that Team Australia is back which is really what our country needs. Go Aussies. http://team-australia.americascup.com/en/home.html
  5. Larry isn't going to allow a non-Oracle team to win. That's the whole point of what's going on. And how does he ensure that with a one-design class? It won't really be a OD class, and Oracle already has a big advantage with 2 boats and sailing in the qualifier series. Larry will just keep moving the goalposts (and spending money) as necessary. Not that big an advantage. Not compared to a 62.
  6. Can someone tell me how Oracle will generate income if they lose? What is the hidden trick? Larry isn't going to allow a non-Oracle team to win. That's the whole point of what's going on. And how does he ensure that with a one-design class?
  7. You've missed the best reason to allow this to go ahead. So that the non-Oracle team that wins can change the rules back to something sensible and run a program that is less than laughable.
  8. Don't kid yourself - 18's don't sail in 30 knots true.
  9. Why the V ? why is the beam looking seeming so flat while most forces are vertical ? Whose sailor will be happy to sail with this beam ? Stop embarrassing yourself. You really have no idea what you are on about. You need to combine wing forces, platform twist and rig induced beam stress to understand the force vectors. A vee'd beam may well be the LOWEST stress option. All we know for sure is that none of us can possibly pretend to know if a v is better or not. Although I could learn to quote properly.
  10. I see. And your area of expertise is?
  11. Came back to make some meaningful comment, but it looks like the thread fire is well underway and it might be a case of stand back and let it burn to the ground. To those who cannot help but turn sa threads into personal slaying grounds -shame on you!
  12. We sail Lasers because, just like you, we find that the most rewarding boats are not necessarily the fastest boats. Lasers rate about the same as the Farr 3.7 and older skiff Moths and have very big fleets that give lots of close racing. The way the boats turn makes pulling off a good tack and gybe very rewarding for some of us, and we enjoy the simplicity, durability and economy of the boats. If you don't agree then that's fine but when you consistently sling shit at Lasers it gets wearing. My other singlehanded monos rate in the International Canoe/Sharpie speed range but I don't sling shit at you for sailing a slow Contender or 3.7, and you don't expect 18 Footer sailors or F18 sailors to call your Sharpie a dog because they would destroy it around the course. You get pissed off when people point out your lack of success in Sharpies and IIRC you got pissed off when people had a go at Sharpies as a class. BTW I love the Sharpie, 3.7, Contender etc, the point is that you keep on attacking the Laser even when it's off topic. Any chance you could be consistent and not throw shit if you can't take it? I guess the experience of sailing a Laser was that harrowing I just can't let it go. Sorry.
  13. Are we not missing the point? The dinghies that are rewarding and fun to sail are the dinghies that are pure in their race setup, with balance, poise and a setup that is not compromised at either end of the wind spectrum. What is not rewarding around the course is an off the beach reaching machine which is what the mx next appears to be. If a new design can combine speed and poise, then great, but it is not an easy thing to do. The most rewarding boats I have sailed are most certainly not the fastest. For me, boats like the displacement skiff moth, farr 3.7, contendor, 505 and lightweight sharpie are the boats I have found most reward. The very nature of these boats mean that racing is always close which further adds to the enjoyment factor. I have mixed feelings about the 14ft skiff, 49er, and 18 footer, fun to sail no doubt but not sure if they fit into my uncompromised and pure category. These fleets are pretty damn spread out and lose points with me as a result. It's a fine line and I guess why differences in personal preferences have delivered so many dinghy classes. For me though, the biggest dog of them all is the Laser and I can never get over why anyone sails them. If any boat deserves to be picked on, then that is it.
  14. Looks like it has a distinct lack of sail control to me. I mean take a look at that leach flailing around. A great beach toy but not a refined racing machine. I just hate floppy un-stayed boats. Can you imagine the amount of time it took to get the Finn sail looking right? Not sure a roachy sail will ever look right unstayed. My old skinny moth looks faster and more fun.
  15. Easy girls. This is not an anger management site. Nobody cares for your personal issues. Stick to the topic. Very, very few engineers would have the experience to assess this type of issue properly, and anybody with any level of technical understanding (or common sense) knows that none of us should be speculating about cause of failure. Having said that, I find it amazing that with the design tools and manufacturing process control available now, that the beam failed at all. It also seems like ETNZ and ORACLE did a good job by building hull 1 with a high safety factor, then measuring the loads, then optimising hull 2. It takes a lot of money and resources to do this and it looks though. I agree with the "leave it to the investigation" approach. I would condition this with the release of a transparent report though. I don't know of any other sport where the organising body or investigating authority can simply cover up details of events like this so personally I would like to see a transparent outcome to the matter.