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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36

    ^ Pietro Sibello is 38 and, together with his brother, formed a 49er top-level crew that barely missed a medal in 2008. Unfortunately, he was grounded by some sort of sickness that introduced a risk factor the Sailing Federation had not the balls to accept. Jacopo Plazzi - and Francesco Marrai: showing my age as well as Italy's tradition of familism, I actually met their fathers, Matteo Plazzi being a long time LR member and Antonio Marrai LR's logistics manager. Francesco is a competent Laser sailor, while Jacopo sails a 49er but is really too young
  2. Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36

    ^ Displacement guy - might be of use on the AC75 only if it turns out it can't fly ...
  3. Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36

    ^ No, this is to inform the Chinese investors who own AFAIK 20% of Prada shares. Chinese labor is too expensive, most goods are now made in Transnistria - googling for it doesn't count
  4. Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36

    That's vintage SR - kudos! In a matter of 3 hrs bounced from SA to FareVela to La Stampa!
  5. Italy Anarchy

    ... and tripadvisor, as a necessary but not sufficient condition. This is the review of the (chinese/egyptian) place in question: https://www.tripadvisor.it/Restaurant_Review-g187870-d3155286-Reviews-Osteria_da_Luca-Venice_Veneto.html
  6. Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36

    ^ Great find SR! And it's Euros mind you, they're playing hardball Edit: upon closer reading, it's "just" 65M€
  7. Italy Anarchy

    One final advice, which should be obvious but isn't - witness periodic articles in the national press: in Venice, NEVER let a "friendly waiter" decide for you especially if fish is involved, make sure that what you order is shown/priced in the menu. Normally, victims are Japanese, but better be safe. Turns out most restaurants have been taken over by foreign investors, mainly Chinese - so during your stay in Venice stick to pizza
  8. ^ Not likely. The Pisa yacht club the Lacortes belong to - actually it seems to be the reverse, it's a bit like LE and GGYC with one of the brothers being president - was founded in '89 and organizes well-known offshore races. And no doubt Bertelli would block dodgy Italian entries
  9. Fishy - how can they go ahead with the Resource Consent process on this basis now? Plus ça change ... Sigh
  10. AC36 Auckland NZ

    ^ With due respect to Kiwi sailing prowess, when it comes to base architecture this doesn't hold a candle to Renzo Piano's LR base in Valencia. But again, while ETNZ's base is rightly permanent this time, the Challengers bases look overbuilt for the foreseen short stay of about 6 months
  11. Teams?

    Not sure about Bertelli's degree of expectation. ATM the only candidates would seem to be the Lacorte brothers - see post #221 in the LR tnread
  12. Teams?

    C'mon, even the Gtran is clear enough: "Now we have to reach the goal that will allow us to officially join the competition - declares Azara - involving in our adventure traveling companions who can economically support a very demanding undertaking." - it's all wishful thinking, nothing formal, no money, no mention in the Italian sailing media As for Arzachena, been there: it's a village up on a hill inland from Porto Cervo, there's a flea market once a week - period
  13. Teams?