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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    220,000 vies and over 8,000 replies and this SJ24 is still afloat, in spite of all the abuse that she is taken. Bruce Kirby, the designer, and Clark Boat Company, the builder, deserve a lot of credit.
  2. PHRF PNW handicappers

    When PHRF-NW had the situation with the big boats, the owners did bend over backwards to resolve the issue and, among big boat owners, there was general agreement that what PHRF-NW was trying to do was unworkable and unfair. The PHRF-NW board just was not interested and, when the big boats broke away, the attitude was good riddance. For the issues for PHRF-NW, PHRF-BC and PHRF-VI to be resolved, the boards need to be interested in doing so for the benefit of the membership.
  3. PHRF PNW handicappers

    In order for any change to be implemented, there has to be some support from the PHRF-NW board. With the big boat fiasco last year, they became very defensive and, in order to make the problems go away, they essentially forced the big boats to break away from PHRF-NW and start racing under a different rating system. It is plain silly that PHRF VI, BC and NW all have their own interpretations on what boats ought to be rated and it kind of shows how subjective a PHRF rating system really is. Combining the three PHRF districts would make enormous sense but it also means that we would have to deal with three times the number of egos. The PHRF boards really need to remind themselves what they are really here for.
  4. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Over 180,000 views later, Rimas is obviously the star of the show but no-one sees fit to make fun of a SJ24 any longer. In spite of the clear shortcomings of the skipper, this $500.00 sailboat is still afloat and the mast is still standing. I have sailed SJ24s for 35 years and I still get the impression that, when things get rough, the brew will break much sooner than the boat will.
  5. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    It is hard to resist making light of this situation. In the picture, Rimas is showing that he has his whistle handy and ready for use. When he goes over the side, does he believe he can use it to get the boat to come back and pick him up? I see that he does have an outboard engine bracket. From personal experience I can tell you that, without it, it is almost impossible to get back in the boat from the water.
  6. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Somebody needs to give the San Juan 24 some credit. As an active SJ24 sailor, I would never dream of taking one offshore but they are tough little boats nevertheless and they certainly do not deserve to be abused like this one is.
  7. Crewed on a 30/30 in Seattle through the 90s. Great boat but it did need the rail meat. Was always envious of Cats Paw, the 30/30 GP, because the large cockpit would accommodate the large crew much better. In terms of boat speed, the GP never seemed all that much faster than the regular 30/30 and would hardly ever make up for the difference in rating. Had a chance to buy the GP, when it was for sale in Seattle, and still somewhat regret not pulling the trigger. The appeal of OD racing was just too strong.
  8. From what I remember, the mains for these boats are cut pretty flat. In the lighter air, we used the running backstay to pull the center of the mast aft to add some fullness to the main. That seemed to help our light air perfomance. The 911s's and S2 9.1's are a little tougher but you ought to be able to stay with them. It is hard to be competitive with six year old sails and a new set will do wonders for your boat speed. The boat also needs to be sailed flat. We sailed the boat with seven people in just about all conditions.
  9. In the late 80s through the 90s in Seattle, we had a nice class of several Santana 30/30s, S2 9.1s and Olson 911Ss. Crewed on one of the Santana 30/30 and have wonderful memories of the boat. I have a J24 right now but still sometimes regret not buying a Santana 30/30 GP that was for sale here about a doxzen years ago. If you are in the market for a 30 footer, all the three boats mentioned would be good candidates and all can be had for a reasonable amount of money.