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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Unknown Lady² looking for crew for 1 or both legs of Bi-State. Last port to port race of the season in southern Lake Mich. If only available for the return leg on Sun, come up Sat nite for the regatta party or catch a ride early Sun with crew driving up from Chicago. Section 4 will be very competitive and challenging, as always. 773-531-8037
  2. Vacation travels have left us short-handed for this year's Verve. Frers 36 needs 1 or 2 crew for all 3 days. Tactical experience is a plus as that is who is on vacation. PM me or call 773-531-8037. We should be in a very interesting and competitive section if breaks are where I think they will fall. If good fit, opportunity to race the rest of the season.
  3. Due to some miscommunication and some bosses that do not know the importance of sailing. UL² is looking for a couple of able bodies to race in the NOODs. Everyone will be hyped up after the AC weekend, so this should be fun and intense. Help can be used at trim, pit or the pointy end. PM me and LET'S DO THIS!
  4. Looking for crew in the Chicago area to sail on a 36' racer/cruiser out of JPYC. We race a full schedule, including the Wednesday night series, a host of challenging regattas, and major distances races. Queens Cup, MAC Race, Verve Offshore Regatta, Bi-State Regatta to name a few We are open to anyone interested but Symmetrical Spinnaker experience would be a plus. We try to win while having a good time, being competitive, and enjoying the post race imbibing and what knot.
  5. Well said. As an owner, I have guys that understand the boat has to get put up and are always there for me. What pisses me off are the 1 or 2 who think its someone else's responsibility. Its unfair to their crewmates. I have the Sammy Sosa rule, i.e., look to eliminate "a cancer in the clubhouse", regardless of how talented they may be. I will put up with alot of crap, but what will make me consider getting rid of crew is when their behavior, actions or lack of commitment affect the crew. Examples are not showing up and making us sail shorthanded and repeatedly doing things you've been instructed not to do. The rest of the crew sees these things and recognizes the problem. I have found that with patience loyal people will get better, but well sailing pains in the asses never seem to resolve themselves with time. You can only be as committed to crew, as they are committed to the boat. Self-motivation is important. I am fortunate that my crew can set up the boat and break it down without me being present. Some of them, mostly younger guys, are not so good at cleaning. I suspect this is a sign of the times. I've never been to their apartments, and I'm not so sure I want to after seeing some things they've done on the boat. About the only fixed asset they own is their car. They truly do not understand the investment that sails and a boat represent. It may be worthwhile to make new crew aware of this. Perhaps Capts assume this knowledge on the part of crew. I haven't been 20 something for a while. Fun is important. Not only for the crew, but for the Capt. Every now and then you run into crew who think you are campaigning a boat, just so they will be able to enjoy themselves during the summer. I gladly let a guy go this year who said he wasn't having fun. He didn't seem to understand that it was not all about him (Sammy Sosa rule). He was oblivious of how his quest for fun was crapping on everyone else' (including me) fun. No one is perfect. Look around. If you can't see something that you are doing might be a problem, then you probably are a problem. If you do see a problem with yourself, correct it. You just made the boat better and became more valuable as a member of the crew. In life I have found that usually, if someone things you're f*cked up in regards to something, you probably are. Its OK to be f*cked up about things. You can't make everybody happy. On a boat, its NOT OK. You are part of a team. If you're f*cked up, then so is the boat. Be f*cked up on land, but never on the boat.
  6. This is good stuff. I've herded cats and putting together a "good, dependable" crew is much harder. I would add one thing here. Its more for how to get taken for a ride next year. One thing that drives me nuts is people who make the same mental mistakes over and over. Not just on one race, but things you've practiced, talked about, and pointed out. Even worse, doing things you've been repeatedly told NOT to do is even more dangerous. Here's a great example: On my old boat, everyone was told not to put more than 2 wraps on the primaries when tacking, until the tack was completed and you were doing final trim. It often resulted in an overwrap. Everybody got this except one guy. When it was really blowing, the resulting overwrap was very hard to undo. Obviously, your boat aint going fast in the right direction if you can't trim or ease the sail. This guy thought he knew more than everybody else because when it was blowing 10 knots or so he could easily correct the overwrap. The key here is to pay attention and learn. All boats are different (even one designs). People have stupid rules because they have already learned the hard way. They've ,made it easy for you. Just listen, write it on your wrist if you have to. Its always the crew that wins a race; its always the braintrust that loses it. If they realize they made a mistake by having you on board, they will eventually correct it. If you insist on doing it the hard way, you will probably be doing it on another boat next year. I've seen idiots relieved in the middle of the race (not my style), but you dont wanna be that guy. Make a committment to never be the guy making all the mental error. Its takes 3 weeks to teach a dog not to piss in the house. Surely, you can learn what not to do on a boat in that period of time. If not, they just might trade you in for a dog.