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      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. 6 meter Worlds

    well, the metre classes are quite specific about the courses to be used in a world cup regatta. I don't think there is enough water for 2 mile legs in the bay, given the freighter anchor grid, but there is a lot of room to run a proper race at the mouth of the bay. There is some wiggle room, which I expect was exercised in the English Bay venue, but frankly, it is not necessary to race in the bay, and in front of the host club. That is just customary practice on the part of the race organisers. Not a great showing...
  2. 6 meter Worlds

    I think this is more of a local knowledge thing by the local "rock stars" who think that their secret knowledge of the local wind / current and race management practice was their advantage. The usual way of resolving local knowledge defects is to find the over confident local and maintain conservative leverage on them while they show you around the race course. I rather enjoyed the whole story, actually. "Hey look, we are first, we are so awesome... oh wait, we are last. But we know who to talk to, and we can be first again... oh wait, we just stepped into a room of AC regulars..." Shame about the race management though. You ask a bunch of people to spend a lot of money to show up at your racing venue and then provide them the level of management that would be embarrassing for a regional opti regatta.
  3. Kevlar Verses Fiberglass

    Probably a Corel 45 would be a better choice, given the OP's statements about performance v simplicity. But the base purchase is about 3 times what he is looking to pay for Javelin. With regards to Kevlar v Glass, definitely working with Kevlar was trouble. No more so than working with other high performance structures of the time (honeycomb anyone?). It holds up well enough to cycling loads, but even at the time when that boat was built, there were better solutions that were used (S-Glass).
  4. Refurbished Panasonic Toughbook

    Well, I must be a farmer since I drive a merc. Tesla? What's that? Last I looked, it was an inefficient turbine designed for agricultural manufacturing methods. And I stay away from park benches because of the proximity of bird poop and other undesirables. So is it control-K that I need to press?
  5. Refurbished Panasonic Toughbook

    I bought a very inexpensive Dell XT2 XFR on ebay, which is a similar product, and is a convertible tablet form. It required a fairly major redo which was tedious, but I upped the SSD and memory at the same time. After about a year sitting in the PNW humidity in the nav table of a leaky race boat, I had to replace the keyboard and the power adapter. I now keep the pc in its own Pelican case and have routed the various feeds (power, USB, Serial NMEA, etc) through waterproof connecters through the case. I think the whole installation was about $500. It runs all the nav software, scoring software and rating software that I need. Use a projector if you want to watch movies. Use one of the low profile pelican cases specifically for tablets. You aren't ruggedising the pc, you are only keeping in its own dry environment. I use desiccant paks to keep the humidity at bay.
  6. farr 40 ilc

    The boom may not swing through the runners as backstay arrangement, depending on the rig design. If the boom does not swing through, the other solution is to create chain-plates at the transom corners. This changes the rig dynamic a bit, in the wrong way, unfortunately (powers up the main in heavy air), but if you are sailing with a reef in, it may not matter so much.
  7. 2017 Rules Rule 69

    No no no. All of this *(*&^)$ rubbsh is now ok. It falls into the definition of customary activity. If you have always been swearing at your competitors, then by the priniciple of customary law, you can continue to do so. In fact, the rule gives the shouters a tool to totally tool the tools in the morality squad who think it is their obligation to impose their view of behaviour on your customary activity. Of course, their customary activity is being total carrot in the anus types. So everyone gets to behave like idiots in the sport. Its all good...
  8. farr 40 ilc

    A few boats like this have been converted for "performance cruising". The basic approach is to have a cruising main that is only hoisted to the rigging point where the runners attach. Then detach the check stays and the main should swing through without having to do too much with the runners. If you do the math on this, you will probably find that the SA / D ratio of this detuned set up is still favorable as against most cruising designs. The hardest job is raising and lowering the mainsail. Other solutions are to use electric winches for the runners and mainsheet. This allows for push button control so that you can turn the boat and wind on a runner or mainsheet during a gybe, all at the same time. I don't have one of these boats, but mine is very similar, a later generation of IMS based design, and it is a great boat for cruising around. It is just a lot of work. It is fairly easy to handle with three people if you know what you are doing. Just don't bother with the mast butt slider! I think the bigger problem with these boats is that by this time in their lives, they are usually quite tired, and require a significant amount of effort to be put into standing and running rigging, and all the other mechanicals. So you can get the boat for 20K - 30K, and then the maintenance may set you back twice that. But still, 90K for a fast cruising boat seems like a good deal, Just don't get sucked back into racing, because then your costs will go through the roof again ILC 40s were never Formula 1, don't let that analogy bother you. At best, they are Group C / GTP. And yes, going hotel cruising in a Merc 291 seems a completely reasonable thing to do, especially if there is a hotty in the seat beside you.
  9. Do you flake your sails in your lazy bag?

    Use long flakes, 2 ft at least on each side. Good thing about boom bag is that you can keep the flake loose. Stuffing it or wadding it in the bag increases shrinkage (actually not shrinkage, just micro folding resulting in smaller overall dimensions).
  10. IOR Mystery boat

    My guess is German Frers. The clipped transom was typical, and it looks like a hydraulic drive into the keel which was also typical. I am surprised by the build date, i would have put that design iteration at 76 or 77, although the deck/cockpit layout is more post 79 fastnet.
  11. Yes to this; boats = boys, horses = girls. What we really need is a kind of modern duathlon, with equitation and sailing in teams. Dressage and course racing on day one, cross country and coastal on day two. Shake it a bit at the end with a big party at the end of day two. Sponsored by Cartier of course...
  12. Sydney to Hobart 2016

    But really, I get it. I am all over the wang problem... Oh no, that didn't come out right at all.
  13. Sydney to Hobart 2016

    ten billion people get called a dick every day on public fora like this. what's the problem? Was that supposed to be flora? Maybe. Either way, CLEAN is a dick. No no no Its pubic flora. This place is slipping...
  14. Sydney to Hobart 2016

    Wanker .....You have to admit that WOXI hooning around the starting line and CQS flopping like a World Cup player was all a bit unprofessional....it was LMAO entertaining though, in a Dukes of Hazzard kind of way. If you have sailed in the harbour you might know there are 30deg shifts in that breeze it wasnt a true NE Not to mention the Pigs & the Wedding Cakes plus a shit load of fuck tards who boarder the race course Actually, yes. I did a load of racing in the Harbour. And 2 SFs. And 11 Fastnets. And a metric shed load of other racing too. Getting pinned against the port-end up the edge (Cowes start example, and here too) and having to tack onto port only works if you really know you have a clear path out. Especially in a shifty breeze. Otherwise it's risky call indeed. Stumbling around a minute early and hanging dead stopped in the middle of everything (and trying to go backwards), ditto. Sail setting problems, after thousands of dollars of good kit installed, and youuuuuge quantities of hours "practicing" is just wrong. Good programs, staffed by paid pros just shouldn't do that. My $0.02. Totally agree with this. Who would ever go into a obstruction immediately following a start and hope to pull a "water" call out of their "donkey" (as my mother made us say at christmas dinner this year)? Even if you get the first boat on "water", what about the 2nd? or the 10th? Pretty poor performance. As to all the rest of the clump copulations (knotted fornications?), well, there are passengers on board, yes? The bigger the boat, the more likely it is that the passengers can't keep up. I would think that the performance in the smaller 50+' fleet was better all around - less ego, more competence. There is a reason why the overall winners of this race are always found in the second row.
  15. Too many attributes with about the same value to be useful. There is mucking about in boats Vs the sport of sailing. If people want to compete in the sport they will find a way. Don't try to stop them. What is not in your list is the generational issues. As every sailing club knows, not enough young people are entering the sport, while the older guys are tapering off, full of the excuses you have listed. I took a couple of young girls (8 and 6) and parents on my boat last year, first time for them. After we started sailing, the youngest one came out of the companionway way and asked; "Hey mum? Can I play on the iPad now?" WTF! "No" was the answer thankfully, but the girl had a sook. She was out in the real world but wanted to play a game on a screen. She is not alone, screens are more attractive to young people than reality, when at their age we would have been sailing. There is your problem. I have actually never found this on my boat. When families with young children come out on the boat, the children get to do all the fun stuff, like sitting up at the bow and getting wet or turning winch handles or driving. I am always getting "the kids want to know when they can come back" comments from the parents. This is how I was brought into sailing at a very young age, driving an old meter boat when I was about 5. There was no way that I knew what I was doing but there were lots of others around me who did so it was all good. Interestingly, this was also how I grew up in sailing, being given fun jobs until I had developed sufficient skills to be given the hard jobs. Why is this so difficult? All that is needed is to expose them to it. Done properly, they will want to be back. Anyway, somewhere up there, it was mentioned that sailing had became an "adult day camp for 8". Now that I am in the position of providing the adult day camp, I am amazed at the generous people that provided me the day camp when I was younger. Being a boat owner who races is a exercise in generosity. You take out your expensive lump of tech, throw some fuel into the air and let a bunch of yahoos light it on fire, hoping it all doesn't come crashing down badly. At least in the corinthian divisions, it has always been like this. You start by getting hooked because some old uncle / aunt / family friend lets you drive their boat, you work your way through the day camp because someone lets you do all kinds of dangerous stuff with their equipment, and eventually you end up being the old uncle / aunt / day camp supervisor. If you fall off the wagon when you become the aunt / uncle / supervisor, then you are may just be an ingrate. OK so maybe that last bit was a bit harsh, but maybe you get my drift. I think the reason that people aren't racing as much is because we are an increasingly ungenerous society, and sailboat racing requires a very generous spirit, whether in the equipment side, or the race management side, or the racing side, or any of the other applicable sides e.g port v stbd. We won't fix participation until we fix the generosity problem, I think. Like anyone, I hate those $5,000 bad days, but I do eventually shake them off and get back out, mostly because I like to give back into the sport which has provided me with such a lot of fun over the years.