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  1. Had to add this one that was taken recently. I think it demonstrates the PNW at its finest.
  2. Bingo! Those lobster buoys ARE sailing hell. Especially for a multihull with vertical daggerboards and spade rudders. (I've now got retractable outboards so I dropped my snag apparatus by 33%. Of course, now I sail the PNW but if I ever were to have a boat in Maine again, it'd be full keel and attached rudder--like Toms!)
  3. +1 to both points!
  4. Whidbey is nice but a million miles to get to your boat. Very few spots to keep it and fewer still for a year round mooring. Don't depend on using the ferry between Pt Townsend and Whidbey if you think you'll do it regularly. Tide and wx 'inconveniences', not to mention long waits due to Tourons in the summer. Have done the island living thing and if you 'need' to get out and about, the ferries will also be an 'inconvenience' in short order. That said, and as much as I probably should take the "it always rains and is cold and windless except when it's blowing a gale' approach, I find Anacortes to be a good solution....
  5. Winters can get a little long and dreary but we don't have hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards (when we do get more snow than normal, it's gone in a few days...), our cold snaps and hot spells are brief instead of interminable. Sailing is best in the shoulder seasons, the 1000's of charter boats hog the park mooring buoys for a couple months in the summer but the rest of the time we get everything to ourselves. Sailers fight the insidious urge to buy a powerboat but most lose the battle. I grew up in Maine, have lived in the PNW, Hawaii, SoCal and came back to the PNW...
  6. Yup!!! (and I already regret my full suite of B & G electronics purchase....well, except for the autopilot)
  7. I've had 4 boats with retractable boards in my adult life. One centerboard, 3 daggerboard boats. Access to scrub as you suggest is/was nonexistent. However, I had NO issues with growth inside any of the trunks--whether in New England, SoCal or the PNW.
  8. Took it right up the wazoo, 'e did, but that was a long time ago.
  9. I'm gonna respectfully disagree. Had an Albacore--after sailing another heavy oldie daysailer from a bygone age. However, I also sailed some older wooden Lightnings. Ya wanna learn to sail, take the fam out safely and comfortably---Lightning hands down. We had the family in the Albacore, but it was never as roomy or as secure feeling. Sure, a bit more responsive, especially when only a couple peeps are aboard but it's an 'active' boat, you work it, you dum-diddle relax for the afternoon. Lightning has plenty of performance for a beginner. Heck, a Flying Scot would be better still. Lot's of them around back east I bet... Edit: Just FINISHED reading the post I was quoting. Yup, Flying Scot. (didn't see that part until just now...) I think it's bedtime....
  10. Rasper, you're pretty much 'in the know' on such things like a realistic price but I would have guessed another couple hundred grand in 2017 prices....
  11. Indeed! This is really what enquiring minds want to know....
  12. I was afeerd you might say that. But by those standards, neither vessel was/is very maneuverable. As others have noted, 'restricted' in the COLREGS carries very specific connotations and is not a factor as far as we know the circumstances. Btw, the Fitz isn't going to spin or accelerate on a dime like your regular neighborhood Sea Ray or Macgregor either....(theoretically, IF the Fitz was showing NUC or Restricted in ability to maneuver due to some special ops going on- which would have to be those defined in the COLREGS, then, that issue might be in play--I pretty much doubt that however or it would have likely leaked out by now.)
  13. The navigation status of large merchant vessels on the high seas are well known to the public Gunni, what does this mean to you? Because as a Licensed and retired deep sea tanker captain, I have no clue what you are referring to.....
  14. Nope, don't think so...
  15. Wess and Zonker have both refined the intent of my answer. Responsiveness is indeed what most are asking for when they talk about performance (great clarification Wess!). That finger light touch on the tiller and the immediate surge in acceleration as the wind strengthens are what sailors yearn for but seldom get once they are cruisers. Zonker alludes to the real truth of 'speed' and 'performance' when cruising. Except for a downwind sleigh ride in a good breeze but small seas, sailing offshore at speeds over 10 knots is not relaxing for families who have to eat, sleep, cook, bathe, whatever on a passage. Monohull or multihull, the motion and the heightened sense of alertness required of the crew quickly get old and tiring. It's no fun living in foulies (from the spray), planning each step and handhold just to get from your seat to head or your bunk. I still say that (with rare possible exceptions), this 'performance' you speak of is not as achievable, nor as desirable as one might think when living aboard and cruising. A great afternoon sailing in the bay is far different than an ocean crossing...