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  1. 27 minutes ago, mgs said:

    If I didn’t know any better I’d say that’s the Spitfire French/Webb built a handful of years ago.

    you took that? The boat was sold recently supposedly...

    Bingo!  I knew it.


    On 1/5/2021 at 7:55 AM, Veeger said:

    There was a custom 30'er that's been kicking around the Maine coast for a number of years.  I've only seen a few pics, it wasn't promoted by the builder or designer.  I 'think' it could have been a Bob Stephens design and I want to say French and Webb did it.  I haven't tracked it because it is too small for me and didn't have any accommodations.  I think the last time I saw anything on it, it had been spiffed up and re-worked rig-wise.  Maybe this will jog someone's memory...

    Thanks for getting it...

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  2. 17 minutes ago, Ajax said:

    I'm afraid if I subscribe to YT Premium that I'll waste more time there than I already do.

    Life is not meant to be spent watching other people do things (unless it's for educational purposes). Life is meant to be spent doing things by oneself. Now that I've made all these big repairs and upgrades to my boat, I'm positively dying to get out there. The last thing I want to do, is spend the spring and summer watching other people sail on YT.

    No disagreements here.  But I do not have cable or over the air TV,  we use it for the limited entertainment we get from a big screen.  I confess that I prefer some YT videos over most of what passes for entertainment on Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc, etc.  Overall, it's a pretty cheap price compared to cable and 'other'...

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  3. There was a custom 30'er that's been kicking around the Maine coast for a number of years.  I've only seen a few pics, it wasn't promoted by the builder or designer.  I 'think' it could have been a Bob Stephens design and I want to say French and Webb did it.  I haven't tracked it because it is too small for me and didn't have any accommodations.  I think the last time I saw anything on it, it had been spiffed up and re-worked rig-wise.  Maybe this will jog someone's memory...

  4. 5 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

    You will find that the arrows cast into the housing are incorrect, this was discovered years ago but they still make the generic/aftermarket ones incorrectly. How does water get into the glass bowl if it is plumbed as per the arrows?

    Seriously?!!???!  I find this beyond absurd.  But I think I came across a previous owner  who ‘knew’ this years (many) ago.  Did a delivery that was having the same type issues on a boat that had ‘original’ fuel in the tanks.  The owner threw a couple ‘extra’ filters of a different type on the boat ‘just in case’. After using the couple spares already on board, I resorted to the other style of filter and headed into Newport, OR where I bought a case of filters.  In putting back the original filter housings, I discovered that the hoses wouldn’t fit.  Turns out they had been running the fuel backwards into the filter.  Once I rectified that problem, I finished the trip with a full case of spare filters minus the one new one I had used.  Filters don’t like to run backwards....


    On another note:  On my 41’ cruising cat, I specified dual fuel filters so that I could bypass a plugged one immediately and change out the other filter at my convenience.  Came in handy once when I had a clogged filter while underway.  The good news was that it didn’t happen at an in opportune time and I had this setup on both engines.  Strongly recommend.

  5. 2 hours ago, zenmasterfred said:

    Oh, yah, no problem in the straits or w/ 25 knot NW blowing into Admiralty Inlet w/ a big ebb tide.

    Well, a strong NW’ly to the finish could be good...  However, don’t put yer dentures in as she might pound a bit in short seas...(what with a nearly flat bottom and the overhang...). On the other hand, my money is on a rowing pain fest!

  6. 14 hours ago, ProaSailor said:



    P.S.  Fast boats could finish in two days or less!

    Well.  That would be true, except.  You’ve got some very significant tide gates. (Tacoma Narrows, twice). Deception Pass/ Swinomish Slough and a distinct lack of wind for that time of year.  ‘Sea breezes’ are non-existent for practically the whole length of the course.  I did this route between Anacortes and Olympia 2 years ago—and over 2 weeks only sailed for maybe 8 hours.  The rest was glass calm for days/

  7. Don't know just how 'far' apart you are dollar wise from the buyer.  My experience... you are unlikely to get a  same or better offer in the future.  Time, too, is currency.  Meanwhile, life remains in limbo.  Of course, YMMV....

  8. 2 hours ago, Kris Cringle said:

    GINGER was for sale at a great price (compared to what the owner paid for building it) a while back. I'd go for this: Sweet little 50 footer. 


    Agile, fast, nimble at the docks


    Good dock ornament. 


    Get a captain too. So much easier than fussing with the mooring. 



    Did it sell (again) in the last year or two?  I knew it was for sale quite some time ago and the last asking price was somewhere in the $275k-$325k range.  Get 'er down well under $200k and I'd be getting pretty serious....

  9. 1 hour ago, slug zitski said:

    I’ve tried it both ways ..tank full, tank empty 

    doesn’t seem to make much difference 

    empty tank is easy to drain  without outside assistance and its easier to clean because the tank horizontal walls  don’t get fouled 

    diesel fuel returned to the tank from the engine  is hot , those bugs seem to love hot fuel 

    a fuel line cooler on the return line would be worthwhile on high milage   boats 

    The tank pictured gets about 1000 engine hours and 1500 generator hours per year 

    'Somewhere'..., I got the idea that the problem with warm fuel return was that after use, the fuel cools, the air in the tank cools, drawing in moist air from the tank vent due to contraction of fuel and air density.  Repeat this cycle and  over time, well, ya gots moisture in the tank...

    (I'm sure someone will chime in on this...)

  10. 2 hours ago, Cruisin Loser said:

    I've cruised quite a bit on a friends 67' Lyman-Morse custom motorboat. We were doing high 20's along the coast of Nova Scotia and I glanced at the fuel and said "34 gph isn't bad". The owner pointed out "that's per engine". Twin 1000 hp Cats. 

    This is why,  philosophically and emotionally, I can't do a power boat.  (Let's not even talk about environmentally...)  The funny thing is that dollar/spreadsheet wise, especially on a 67' er, the difference in running costs between power and sail are probably not really the deciding factor.   1973 traumatized me when it comes to fuel use...

  11. 1 hour ago, TwoLegged said:

    I am sure that boat works very well, and its lines are pretty.  But there is something bout the overall look which makes me shudder.

    Does it need wood? Colour on the cabintop?  

    It’s a Schock.  They don’t ‘do’ fancy.   The Harbor 20, however, works really well for the target market and use.  

  12. Haven’t watched the vid yet (competing for bandwidth in the house currently).  Neat little pocket cruiser perhaps but the double ended part seems counter productive to space, room, performance for this size.  I ‘get it’ though about the ‘look’ being a part of the package....


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  13. 52 minutes ago, Zonker said:

    Gaffs can't point as well. Probably higher CG of the rig too. Since racing boats are usually on the cutting edge of design, the cruising fleet follows the fashion when something new comes along.  i.e. conversion from gaffs to Bermuda rigs

    If you're sailing a Windward/Leeward race, you spent 2/3 of the time beating and 1/3 running. Guess which ability (downwind or upwind) is more important to winning races? Well except for boats that can truly plane.

    Yeah, but.... done in today’s materials and today’s designs,  mebbe not that much worse...


  14. 18 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

    Other than the tiller, all your complaints were due to the fundamental nature of 1/4 Tonners.

    Yup,  this is very true.  It was still a ‘not too bad’ little boat.

  15. 1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

    But from most angles it's one of the best looking 1/4 Pounders ever.


    Also, the best built. I was on the first one to arrive here in the 70's - it was a quantum leap in quality over the standard builds of the time - a mini Swan. They have stood up extraordinarily well over the intervening decades.

    I actually enjoyed the years I spent sailing mine.  I only had 4 complaints:  1)  Tiller was too short  2) Masthead rig required multiple different sized headsails 3) Reefing the main was necessary for helm balance when the wind got up much  4)  Almost too stiff,  at anchor in a roll anchorage, my boat was tick/tick/ticking like a metronome while the Cal 34 next door just gently heaved and mildly rolled...

    Definitely well built and solid with a very comfy cabin for 1 or 2 while cruising. (having the 1 cyl Yanmar under the V-berth was a bit weird though...

  16. Plumb bows tend to be a bit less forgiving but..      I tagged a big 'un off the N end of Vancouver island pitching down into.  The sound 'hurt' and I worried about more hits aft by the dagger/saildrive/rudder(s) but it 'buffed right out' on the next haul out with a simple gelcoat repair.   I also got tagged in the San Juan Channel at 8 knots.  Missed the stem (or bumped it lightly) but got cross ways on the dagger board.  8 knots to 2 in a 50 degree turn (uncontrolled) into the wind.  Again, gel coat repair  to the dagger board on the next haul out a year later.  Practically speaking, the Mainecat 41 is a tank....

    Smaller boats are so much lighter that a little layer of kevlar on the stem(s)/ leading edges of boards and corresponding reinforcement of the trunk crush areas is likely adequate for most.   At 15 or 20 knots? experience here.