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  1. Thanks. I have considerable respect for Matt Sheahan but this piece is a "once-over-lightly' piece of puffery probably knocked out in ten or 15 minutes to fulfil a contractural obligation to Yachting World. In his new role as Head of Performance Sailing for Sunset+Vine he probably doesn't have the time to do his chosen subject justice even though a deadline looms. Nothing wrong with his recitation of the facts, even the current cost of housing in Auckland city. Other than that, and the cost of getting here, I'd say that the cost of doing Cup business is is pretty damned competitive. When Italy and NZ announce the Protocol and the buzz starts, look for some good insights and analysis from Matt. Hey has an incomparable string of friendships and contacts worldwide in the sailing game.
  2. No opprobrium! Just the link. Well done, Sting. What i found particularly heartening was the apparently unsolicited approach from the Minister for Economic Development to Dalton to ask if he needed any monetary assistance. Dalton's request followed and was promptly answered within a week. This is a sea change from some of the Government attitudes leading up to the Bermuda victory. To me it says that the Nats understand the need to stand behind the national team.
  3. Ungrateful wretch! For three decades Louis Vuitton under the guidance of Bruno Trouble was a generous and motivating sponsor. Yeah, they profited from their sponsorship but thats what commercial entities are supposed to do. However it's not going too far to say that LV respected and burnished America's Cup tradition. Will they and Bruno be back? The ETNZ ties suggest they might. But LV was treated badly by Oracle in recent events and won't soon forget it. We'll see.
  4. As ezyb has noted ACPI came into being in 1986, after the Ozzer defeat of Dennis Conner in Newport and in the runup to the Royal Perth Yacht Club '87 Cup defence in Perth. Ernie Taylor, a member of RPYC took over the job of hosting the defence and moved swiftly to collate, organise and protect all the current and future intellectual property relating to the America's Cup as the Cup emerged from 135 years of NYYC custodianship The internet certainly exited at that time and the World Wide Web was just emerging. The Sailing Forum on CompuServe did some early reporting from Fremantle.
  5. From the Auckland Council Planning Committee agenda, March 28, 2017: "The “tank farm” leases expire in 2022/2025 enabling the next phase of development of Wynyard Quarter." These are the remaining tanks on the farm and close to the end of their working lives. Likely a number are already retired. This has been an ongoing process for ten or 15 years or longer with more than one third of the tanks already gone. There must be advanced planning and perhaps even construction in new locations. Removal is already slated. Expedited removal would be faster and less expensive than planning, consenting and constructing some kind of new base for AC boats.
  6. Incredible. So much looser-goosey design bullshit. And I like and admire innovative design but, it has to be anchored in reality. First, the carefully crafted Westhaven Pile Mooring Development, long in the making, has some real promise but now it is threatened by the AC proposals to extend the Westhaven breakwater and stick eight or ten AC bases at its end. Don't see much viability here for bases. Area too tight, too small, as others have noted, and what's more the bases would be too far from the central waterfront. So full steam ahead on the Pile Mooring Development but call bullshit on the AC plans for this corner of Westhaven. The Auckland University "Idealog" concerts are so fruity that they legitimately cause one to question the purpose of higher education. The only idea worth a second thought is the Peddlethorpe proposal from Richard Goldie. But he wants to annex the wharves currently used for unloading 250,000 cars and trucks annually in Auckland, and ignores the need for extra berthing for the growing number of mega cruise ship visitors. A laudable thought but these two vital economic activities eclipse the AC multiple times, year round, and annually, whats more! Worth revisiting when the port shipping activities move to an alternate site outside Auckland in a few decades but for now, feh! All proposals are fixated on dropping $100 million or more to remake a big chunk of the waterfront. Why, fer chrissake! This is a glorious opportunity to "borrow" some or all of the tank farm and it's adjoining Wynyard Wharf for bases adjacent and linked to the existing Wynyard Quarter development. It's set for parks and apartments anyway but not in the short term and only after removal of tanks and remediation. Seize the moment and accelerate planned change. Buy out the leases. Short term, pave over the nasty stuff and provide big flat open areas for challengers to bring their temporary bases, work shops etc. Use Wynyard Wharf for cranes plus big floating pontoons for boat moorings. Shut down the little-used Brigham Street portion of the roads that loop around the end of the Tank Farm to create extra space and build a few temporary deck/bridges over to the wharf. You want public viewing? Wynyard Wharf flanks Halsey Wharf and the Events' Centre while its inboard end terminates at North Wharf and its new bar and restaurant complex.It's a five minute walk from the foot of Queen Street. North Wharf and the adjacent Queens Wharf restaurant strip are already Party Centrall on weekend nights. Revisit Te Wero Island at the front door of the Maritime Museum for a bigger, brighter better public stage and screen and official events base than the 2003 version. Note: At best this this is a one-Cup proposal. This approach will buy Auckland four years at a reasonable price, while advancing existing long range development plans. And it will buy time to plan long range infrastructure for the 2025 defence we all anticipate.
  7. Yeah DC was clearly out of touch. See my post #38 yesterday which I believe is a pretty accurate read on things round Ada and Grand Rapids, Michigan. "Doug is the younger brother of Dick and is the current president and CEO of Amway. Dick is the conservative activist and husband of Betsy, your brilliant new Secretary of Education! Dick ran Amway until about 2002 and stepped down. Later ran unsuccessfully for governor of Michigan. "Doug is also the money behind Quantum Sail Design Group and as you noted owns and campaigns the TP52 Quantum Racing. AC history in the family stretches back to father and Amway co-founder Rich, who was heavily involved in the New York Yacht Club's America II challenge in Fremantle in '87 along with son Dick. Certainly there is enough family loot to fund half a dozen campaigns. "There would be a certain symmetry to a DeVos challenge in New Zealand. Back in '87 the DeVos-backed boat was knocked out of contention for the semi-finals of the Louis Vuitton Cup by the Kiwis on KZ7." Doug is the most passionately committed sailor in the family, commercially and personally. If there is to be a mid-west challenger it's his turn and his time. He'd be supported by family including his 91-year-old father whose worth today according to Forbes is $5.5 Billion. As I noted, it's an unfinished agenda. And of course the family has ties with the many top Kiwi sailors who have crewed and worked for them over the decades.
  8. Thenk u!
  9. Yer right about that! Doug is the younger brother of Dick and is the current president and CEO of Amway. Dick is the conservative activist and husband of Betsy, your brilliant new Secretary of Education! Dick ran Amway until about 2002 and stepped down. Later ran unsuccessfully for governor of Michigan. Doug is also the money behind Quantum Sail Design Group and as you noted owns and campaigns the TP52 Quantum Racing. AC history in the family stretches back to father and Amway founder Rich, who was heavily involved in the New York Yacht Club's America II challenge in Fremantle in '87 along with son Rich. Certainly there is enough family loot to fund half a dozen campaigns. There would be a certain symmetry to a DeVos challenge in New Zealand. Back in '87 the DeVos-backed boat was knocked out of contention for the semi-finals of the Louis Vuitton Cup by the Kiwis on KZ7.
  10. Yes, the nativist style of illustration borders on the crude but in selling ideas you only need to set the scene and let imaginations take over. No need for firing squad. This company and Architectus were the only two to emphasise the possibilities inherent in using the existing infrastructure at Wynyard Wharf. There is already a bloody big parking lot in the middle section of the isthmus and some deft application of "move-money" and elbow twisting ought to accelerate clearing at at least some of the remaining tanks on the tank farm. Clear tanks and pave immediately. Remediation can follow after the Cup and before the parks and apartments are built. Of course, if ETNZ successfully defends ....... There's already an additional big piece of real estate that could be used and that's Brigham Street on the east side of the tank farm. It currently serves only as weekday parking for 40 or 50 cars and for access at three points to the wharf. At its outer end it loops around, heading back into down on Hamer St. Traffic is minuscule. Shut down the portion flanking the wharf for 18 months and build a several new access ramps between street and wharf. Every suggestion I've seen for bases plus docks completely ignores the space needed for housing syndicate operations. Wynyard Wharf and the adjacent areas are big enough, and empty enough and their use would not involve building new wharves, quays or reclaiming portions of the harbour.
  11. More reading this morning after a few days away and I see Indio has effectively draped a very wet blanket over the insults and speculation. Goodonya mate!
  12. Talk about a day late and a dollar short! Dana and the Herald were scooped by former Herald Cup writer Suzanne McFadden, writing from her home office in Auckland. Dana was on assignment in Bermuda and must have -- should have, known the routine that would follow the final race. Total silence for over a month ...... until McFadden's very nice, insider, detailed account of the formal challenge. No brine on the Herald snippet. Perhaps someone wrote it for her.
  13. Give this "poodle" shit a fucking rest. It's stupid, insulting and pointless. The only despicable tradition is your single-mindedness. The hip pocket challenge is a well-entrenched and accepted tradition in the legal evolution of the America's Cup DoG. You're a bloody broken record on this. Long past time to quit. Cheers
  14. The meanderings here were all Cleaver's. What a load of claptrap. Good to see the almost universal condemnation from knowledgeable Kiwi commentators. Cleaver in his haste to knock out a commentary piece stepped into the classic trap of trying to recast an event about which he knows sweet fuck all. Just one point, the last thing the current membership of the New York Yacht Club wants to do is find themselves dealing with the New York attempting to recast the Deed of Gift. Verily a fool's errand. As for Sefton, he's famously contained, offering only spare commentary on Cup matters these days. His was a valuable history lesson from a key insider. Cleaver's distorted Cup vision didn't merit a response but his distorted history did.