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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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  1. A few facts for all you theorists. Grant Dalton confirms agreement with Luna Rossa's club and say all will be revealed in the next couple of weeks. However I'm sure stuff will leak out before then. Dalton is not the arbiter of what boats will be sailed. That's up to an agreement between the Challenger and the Defender. He didn't talk specifically about foiling cats nosediving in the swells in the Gulf. He did say they'd need an appropriate design.
  2. COR

    Tomorrow Matteo De Nora and Patrizio Bertelli will be sitting on a yacht in isolation with all communications devices turned off, with a document ready to be signed off the very moment ETNZ crosses the line. To do anything else would be irresponsible. Starting tomorrow the Commodores of Circle della Vella Sicilia and the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron will be sitting on a yacht in isolation with all communications devices turned off, with a document ready to be signed off the very moment ETNZ crosses the line. To do anything else would be irresponsible.
  3. Paul Cayard is in Bermuda. On the BT commentary boat today I believe. Here's part of his email today: "If there is to be a comeback, it is going to be through exceptional sailing on the part of the USA team, something that frankly has been glaringly missing in the America’s Cup. "It isn’t that the Kiwis are doing exceptional things. They are fast, but so is Oracle now. They are sailing consistently and they make high percentage decisions. On top of that, Oracle is making it easy for the Kiwis. This entire series, starting with the start of race 1 when the American team was penalized for being over the start line early, has been a demonstration of sub par sailing by USA. The start of the second race of today was an example of that. Spithill tried to get tricky and Burling simply hooked him, parked him and left him for dead."
  4. COR

    We're on the same page on this although I'd put the chances of a Luna Rossa challenge considerably higher, with only one caveat. And that's the question of whether Bertelli truly has a lust for another tilt at the Cup along with the loose cash to prosecute it in true Prada style. With Bertelli's skipper Max Sirena embedded with ETNZ as extra coach and petrol-head trail bike riding buddy of Grant Dalton you can be sure that conversations are far advanced. I really like your take on the future: "bigger foiling cats, on the cityfront in auckland (or maybe two different courses depending on wind direction, with one further out in the gulf), with 8-10 challengers and an innovative digital way for the world to watch it." First though, a race at match point.
  5. You just don't get it, do you!
  6. Just watched Day Two, all three races. TNZ sure hit form with three perfect starts that morphed into three dominant races. Quite amazing really. Too bad they didn't really get it all together on Day One
  7. Agreed. If it comes to that there is not sufficient loose cash in NZ to support a second defender candidate. To think otherwise is ludicrous. OTOH Ellison could have invited other defence candidates. He could even have offered generous terms and conditions. He didn't cos he didn't want to risk sharing.
  8. Scoop schmoop! Trifling tidbits from the Herald staff on assignment in Bermuda. So fucking shallow. For a decent and insightful read, check on what Kiwi Cup veteran Murray Jones believes. Take your time to read this article today from Suzanne McFadden in the Newsroom website: https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@sailing/2017/06/21/35239/oracle-wont-catch-us-team-nz-coach Oracle won’t catch us: Team NZ coach “Captain” Murray Jones doesn’t profess to be a mind-reader or a fortune teller, yet he thinks he has a fair idea of what will be going on inside the walls of Oracle Team USA right now. Whatever they’re plotting, Jones is sure it won’t be enough to overcome the all-round supremacy of his team, Emirates Team New Zealand in the 2017 America’s Cup match." No Suzanne is not writing from Bermuda. This is from her waterfront home office overlooking the upper reaches of Auckland's Waitemata Harbour. It's our loss that her newcomer media employer can't afford to fly her to Bermuda. It's our gain that despite that drawback she's so well-connected that her reports leave Dana's ramblings far astern.
  9. Unlike Sting I've just worked my way systematically through all the posts in this thread. Perhaps the most surprising and encouraging thing is the realisation that virtually all commentators here and elsewhere think that Oracle, Jimmy and co, are screwed. Near 100 per cent unanimity. Read the pieces from Brit sailors/sailing writers Mark Jardine and Matt Sheahan, both of whom hold faint hope for American chances. Sheehan's piece was particularly good. Oh, yes! Tom Ehman has reversed his prediction to a Kiwi win. Dana quotes Glenn Ashby after he observed the Americans back on the water today. He noted some changes in "sailing technique." whatever that means, and wing trim. For sure oracle now has four days of race video and performance info that they can analyse. No big boat changes though. The comparative performance characteristics of the two boats in wind speeds over 12-14 knots is still a mystery but the forecast is for light air. We may never know. Tactics may still be a hopeful avenue for Jimmy. He's bound to be aggressive but lacking speed he can't do a lot. With more demonstrated speed and agility plus three points in the bag, Burling can afford to play it cool in the start box.
  10. COR

    You're on the right track here but it won't be a "spectator boat." It will be the yacht occupied by the Commodore of the winning syndicate and his select guests. Strictly private. The pre-agreed challenge, aka the "Hip Pocket Challenge," is proffered and accepted as the finish gun sounds. Let history be our guide. It's well established that a potential challenger is selected by either competing team well in advance. One exception. Michael Fay's legitimate Deed of Gift challenge to SDYC in the absence of challenges after six months provided ample emphasis of the need for that. Oracle and ETNZ will already be deep into consultations with their preferred challengers. There will probably even be a draft Protocol outlining the boat designs and terms for AC36. Likely challengers if Jimmy pulls his chestnuts out of the fire? My guess is Japan and Dean Barker. Second choice BAR and Sir Ben. If ETNZ continues on its winning track it will be Italy's Patrizio Bertelli and Luna Rossa, assuming that the ageing Cup fan is up for one more joust.
  11. Draper and Outteridge commentary. That should be excellent value. I'm a Kenny Read fan but his commentary on the ACTV Sky feed here in NZ is flat and uninspired. I blame a direction team that is urging him to dumb it down. So does anyone have ideas how I can view the NBC feed here in NZ without jumping through all kinds of hoops. Doesn't even have to be live
  12. I agree ETNZ's crew will turn in a winning performance in heavy air. They have greater control over foils and the wing, after all. What I wonder about is the Kiwi foils vs Oracle. There's this nagging concern that the Defender might have an edge when it blows, given the computing, tech and construction resources they were able to call on for foil construction.
  13. I have to admire your persistence in defending LE. Who knows where he'll end up. A week or two back Coutts sent up a trial balloon saying he might step down. It could have won him a face-to-face with the money or an invitation to not let the door hit him in the arse. One thing is certain. If the Kiwis prevail there will be changes at Oracle Racing and they won't be tweaks!
  14. Jasus wept! You couldn't even get straight one of the great Aussie pub insults of all times it goes like this: "He wouldn't shout in a shark attack."