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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Exciting though it looks, I am getting less and less convinced we're going to have good racing. Once they're all up to speed, the actual velocity doesn't matter so much from a viewing perspective. The problem is in the speed difference between good sailing and slightly less good sailing. Time and time again, we've seen a boat coming a little of the foils, and bam: speed difference immediately huge, gap opened, and if nothing else happens, game over. So yeah, that's a challenge: the most consistent team should win. If line speed differences are say +/- 5%, manoeuvres & consistency differences are in the +/- 20-50% (or more, purely fictional figures) range and therefore consistency should win it every time. But does that make for good racing? One slight error and you're out? I'm not sure. Tactics, boat placement etc are all of secondary importance to consistency. And if by doing some fancy moves you plop your boat... So in addition to consistency, conservative sailing helps too. So we'll have to see who the "boring steady Eddie" of the bunch will be!
  2. What an amazing welcome for him! Allez les pompiers!!
  3. He lost his rudder and had a pretty tough time getting a new one back in, in a storm. Read about it here The english is pretty tame, the french reads much more scary. Incredible feat, in my view.
  4. Pictures or it didn't happen - first Dutchie in the VG to round Cape Horn after being discovered by Dutchies 401 years ago. "Seeing Cape Horn is very special and emotionally. I drank a bit of rum to celebrate." "The boat is doing well, and the sails are doing well. But my heater broke down today". "I will need another month to finish." Source (in Dutch) "And his autopilot only works on compass, not wind direction, so that means not a lot of sleep during shifty wind periods, such as now" Looks like what happened to Alex... (EDIT) - but an awful lot slower of course...... ;-)
  5. French press telling it's Djokovic (ALC) v/s Wavrinka (AT) ?? I didn't know Stan was Welsh....who knew...?... Well Stan is actually from Romandie, and in German Switzerland, that is called "Welschland" or the language "Welsch".... Welsch, das in der Romandie gesprochene Schweizer Französisch
  6. In current similar winds, ALC seems consistently 2 kn faster than AT on his favoured side? Lower TWS threshold for foiling for ALC?
  7. That must be the seamanship feat of the race!!
  8. As a thank you for the entertainment and information I had reading this thread I tried to translate what Roura sent to the Vendee site as the english translation on the official site is a bit minimal. Sorry if the english is not perfect, but it is late and i tried to keep it close the the original. Getting a rudder installed when dangling off a boat in 6m waves for 30 min seems quite an achievement.
  9. Is it just me, but has Yes We Cam moored up somewhere nice and calm? The boat's hardly moving and the curtains are drawn. You could imagine a nice view of some trees or a harbour crane :-) out there. PS - trying to find instructions on how to embed a video, but only found reference to "embed media" icon, which I can't see...
  10. Indeed, he even tied onto that one, to effect repairs. Why does Romain have to go all the way to Simonstown to find a buoy to moor to, when he could just lash up to the nearest convenient container and fix his rudders there :-) !
  11. Fantastic footage, hats of to both the guy scampering about dangerously like a monkey and the guy safely ensconced in his cockpit! To my fairly layman's eye, it does look like Alex is pushing the boat close to the limit, whereas Armel still has a buffer in terms of gears left and stress on the boat. BP looks positively serene compared to HBs bucking bronco! That could really start telling when the conditions get more marginal. That said, HB looks like she's enjoying herself :-)
  12. Alex doing the cake walk? Now that's a new one after the keel/mast/kite walk :-))))
  13. OK, i'll take a half arsed attempt at this :-) multiple caveats: no idea about any of the mechanics, physics or practicalities of this! What if the foils were encased in a cassette (which they probably are). This cassette has an amount of pivot in the front to-back plane, but can only move backwards a bit, not forwards. The cassette is pushed forward by a ram that only moves over a certain pressure = breaking point of the foil, either by the foil pushing over certain limit or a pressure trigger releasing the ram. In addition, there is a bit of sacrificial hull covering that will allow this amount of movement backward, or a flexible swing keel type skirt cover or a combination of both, to keep the boat watertight with a smooth flow. So the scenario would be that something hard hits the foil hard, harder than the probable breaking point of the foil. The whole foil, encased in its cassette, will then push with enough force to push the ram back/trigger the ram to release quickly, thereby also dislodging/crushing the sacrificial hull plate to allow that. The foil cassette moves horizontally backwards by ... (30-50cm?? who knows, at the point of the hull exit, less inside, depending on how much foil is sticking out, much more at the tip of the foil.), thereby dissipating the forces on the foil and hopefully saving the foil from complete destruction. Accident over, ram is back up to full pressure, foil back in its place, new sacrificial hull plate pushed in, foil is working as before. ?? Could work??
  14. Does anyone know what Alain Roura is doing? He's well on his way to South american beaches by now.... EDIT: Just found it Positionnés à l’Ouest du reste de la flotte en approche des côtes brésiliennes, Alan et La Fabrique sont en effet contraints de garder un cap en adéquation avec l’axe du vent. Le duo en profitera pour tenter de venir à bout de ses problèmes de communication. Pas de panique, Alan ne s’est pas trompé de route et ne se croit pas en pleine Jacques Vabre ! Si La Fabrique affiche depuis hier une trajectoire particulièrement ouest, c’est que son jeune skipper n’a d’autre choix que de garder un cap auquel il a été contraint par les grains du Pot au noir, vendredi dernier. Au près océanique, Alan est en effet forcé de rester sur le même bord, puisque le seul virement possible le ferait prendre une direction nord-est… à savoir, dans le sens inverse du parcours ! Cap à l’Ouest donc, sans pour autant rallonger sa route pour le moment. En revanche, Alan profitera de cette position pour capter du réseau 3G et tenter de procéder aux dernières manipulations visant à rétablir sa connexion internet. Branchements, installations et tests divers sont donc au programme de ce lundi pour le benjamin de la flotte. Il faut vraiment savoir tout faire pendant un Vendée Globe ! Si tout va bien, Alan devrait donc avoir bientôt renoué avec le monde digital, avec l’opportunité par ailleurs d’éviter une bulle sans vent au large de Rio de Janeiro. Et de rattraper par la suite le groupe de devant qui risque fort de s’y retrouver englué... Google translate Positioned to the west of the rest of the fleet approaching the Brazilian coast, Alan and La Fabrique are in fact constrained to keep a course in line with the axis of the wind. The duo will take the opportunity to try to overcome its communication problems. Do not panic, Alan has not mistaken the road and does not believe himself in full Jacques Vabre! If La Fabrique shows yesterday a particularly western trajectory, it is because his young skipper has no choice but to keep a course to which he was forced by the grains of the Pot au noir on Friday. Near the ocean, Alan is forced to stay on the same side, since the only possible turn would make it take a northeast direction ... ie, in the opposite direction of the course! Heading west thus, without lengthening its road for the moment. On the other hand, Alan will take advantage of this position to capture the 3G network and try to carry out the last manipulations aimed at restoring its Internet connection. Connections, installations and various tests are therefore the program of this Monday for the youngest of the fleet. You really have to know how to do everything during a Vendée Globe! If all goes well, Alan should soon have returned to the digital world, with the opportunity to avoid a wind bubble off Rio de Janeiro. And to catch up eventually the front group which is likely to find himself stuck in it ..
  15. Well, not wanting to get involved in this semantic debate, but the Hydroptère was definitely a full foiler that crossed oceans