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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    The old guys are right in both cases! TUBBY
  2. Which three Asymmetrics?

    You would never get enough leech pressure to set a genoa on a spin sheet, tweaking it down hard enough to get some shape just turns it into an outboard sheet. Also a JT is usually cut with a higher foot to reduce the chance of the bow wave going through it as they are usually used blast reaching in higher wind pressures. They are a great sail for those heavy reaches that are just too far forward &/or too heavy for your smallest assy. Almost essential for passage racing but rarely used on short courses. TUBBY
  3. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Add to this that EPIRBS are now to be carried at all times while on deck & life jackets are to be worn when the wind exceeds 25 true. What happened to taking responsibility for our own actions. TUBBY
  4. No. Couldn't dig him up. Had a report of him being in Manly (NSW) 10 years or so ago, but since then nothing. WE had the reunion on Saturday, but our ex owner is already talking about doing it again in 5 years, so I have a bit of time to track him down now. TUBBY
  5. She's Apples 11, my ride from 91 to 94, is still racing the CYCA longer races. Her Hobart winning crew from 91 will be having a few reunion drinks on the CYC deck on Saturday & the boat will be in the pond when she returns from the Lion Island Race for any old crew who want to give her a pat. Unfortunately the pick I was going to attach here is too big a file. Bugger! TUBBY
  6. Sorry no, Our Weasel, worked at the CYCA slip late 80s & (very) early 90s Back in the day when the CYC had a slipway. He left there around 92 & somewhere in the rum fog of that period I have a memory that he was heading for Melbourne to work at one of the bay clubs, but that was the last I heard. He obviously hasn't done anything too terrible in the last 20 years as Mr Google can't find him for me. Thanks for the thought. TUBBY
  7. The original crew of She's Apples 11 are having a few reunion drinks to celebrate it being a bit over 25 years since her Sydney Hobart win. We still have one of the crew unaccounted for, John Drolls, known as (but didn't always answer to), Weasel. Last heard of when he left the CYCA to move to Melbourne in the early nineties. If anyone knows Weasel can they let him know to contact Tubby or any of the other crew for details. TUBBY
  8. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Sitting in Newcastle. Waiting to come out. TUBBY
  9. Melbourne Big Boat Fleet

    Think Tic Toc. TUBBY
  10. Sydney to Gold Coast 2017

    A slow way to a good party. TUBBY
  11. & I'm sure she'd thank you for it! A nicer way to die than that being done to her now. TUBBY
  12. Frizzle DTS

    Sad news. One of the absolute greats. TUBBY
  13. Melbourne Big Boat Fleet

    PHS is about "everyone wins a prize" not may the best man/woman/crew win. It can't be consistent across fleets because then if there is one very well campaigned boat in a fleet somewhere no-one else with that design will be able to knock over their local fleet. This leads to the same dollars race you get in the true ratings systems or the same people winning every week, again just like the other ratings systems out there. The best that can be said of PHS is that if you have a good day & sail better than normal you should be in with a chance of a place, something which is often not possible racing "what you brung" against tricked out rating boats under any of the rating systems. There is a place for both, but I think bringing in a cross fleet standard PHS rating for similar boats is pointless if you want standard handicaps there are a range of rating systems to choose from, any or none of which might suit your boat, but all will give you a consistent measure to chart your progress against even if it is improving from 20th to 12th. And no I'm not a gung ho race IRC or nothing type. I currently race 2 boats, one IRC/ORC & the other PHS & in 20 Hobarts probably 15 have been in the then rating classes & the other 5 (including the last 3), PHS. I just don't consider the PHS results as important as the rating ones, but when you are sailing a boat that is completely uncompetitive under IRC it adds to the fun factor to at least be in with a chance in the PHS division, so yes we do sail to win it. TUBBY
  14. Age to start sailing

    Current (I think) Australian Champion in Dragons is 90! I sailed 12 Meters with him in the 80s. At your age you've got a few years left to pick it up. I'm mid 50s & still finding new things I didn't know I didn't know after 44 years. TUBBY
  15. Normally there would have been a little wind seeker or drifter for when it went really light & a couple of reaching kites at least a .75 but probably a .5 as well. And some boats heading for Hobart had a #6 because storm jibs were a lot smaller back then. At the end of the 88 Hobart we did 11 changes in the Derwent (11 miles). Had the light, the medium, the .5 reacher & .75 reacher all on the halyards & swapped backwards & forwards between them on each change. Not a lot of fun at 3 in the morning on an 80' masthead. TUBBY