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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

Charlie Noble

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  1. Something that regularly needs to travel under a low bridge.
  2. For gentlemen, Rule #10 is the most unbecoming rule in all of yachting. When boats are on opposite tacks, a port-tack boat shall keep clear of a starboard-tack boat.
  3. And you think it would be easy to trim and steer to in daylight?
  4. Though to be honest, you don't use profanity in your reviews in Sailing, nor in your articles in Good Old Boat, nor your books. I think the point of the OP was that in many "articles" written for the FP the gratuitous use of profanity was a bit juvenile. As a career navy flyer, I can swear with the best, and there are sure times I feel its useful, hell, even necessary...but again, I'm not sure that was what the OP was referring to... Crash An SA boat review in Good Old Boat magazine, starts something like this: "If any of you fucking idiots out there still give a shit about 20 year old, overbuilt sailing pigs (and we can't believe you do), this is quite possibly the least shitty of the pieces of shit".
  5. What about the FOILING 42 FT G4? What's going to happen when these guys start taking delivery of those?: "A new multipurpose coastal cruiser-racer" "easy to handle and forgiving" "Kids will love the single berths" "simple and easy to sail"
  6. . .....if you don't mind going from ~3' draft to ~15' Two good points for anyone thinking "Could the helmsman have thrown the helm over if he was in doubt?" 1. The boat on the other tack would have been on it's ear with shit everywhere in the darkā€¦ i.e. high risk of MOB. 2. The keel would most likely have struck as it arced down through the tack anyway Makes you realise it's not easy to throw an instant manoeuvre at a fully powered up canter. My 1.04c worth. And the first 2 seconds one would imagine they are thinking submerged object rather than geographical feature.
  7. The team is ship wrecked on an island with minimal food, water awaiting rescue. They have a sat phone with a dying battery a local generator that runs just a few hours during the day/ night. What part of that is fucking ridiculous ? This isn't hollywood land where we beam people off the island instantly. In the real world you can't build a tv studio out of coconuts and mangos It is hard to have more PR when you are still trying to get people and equipment on site. As for team vesta I hope their only complaint is the lack of females stuck on that island with them. My point is coming from someone who is genuinely engaged and interested in the race.
  8. The tone of this thread was to let Vestas speak as to what went wrong and not rush to judge / throw under a bus. We are over 72 hours later and the press releases coming from Vestas are fucking PR bullshit garbage.
  9. Don't they just need an Iridium GO to upload the footage? $129 / month service.
  10. Blunted good to hear from you. Hope you are sailing down south somewhere. I was at the city club yesterday for brunch and it was empty. I shall look for you when the island club opens. Are you in the bar or brown bagging it on the dinghy club steps? Are you and Fred going to do the C Class this year? Always pretty to see on the lake. As for my comment about design build, I know Fred did a custom with Bruckmann, or I think that is true. But he is the exception. Design/ build is dead in my opinion at rcyc. They always had better creative people at Island YC, such as Bernie Herman, and Sid Bregman, and Kohler and Moog etc etc. Rcyc has become a cottage community with big French condominiums. It cannot be legislated out. It is a culture thing. When I got into IOR A back in mid '70s it was because that was what everyone wanted to be part of. No One Design communism back then. Dinghies were for kids and the odd weirdo. Olympics were keel boats. But now no one does design/build. AS you say, the action is on the dinghy docks........come by for a drink. As nice as that sounds, it is the death knell of the club prior culture of design build. The club is now sailing middle class culture and therefore a delight to Obama et al. Do come by my old culture boat anytime for a drink.........martini I should think. DP is back on the air in yet another episode of "Welcome Back Codger"
  11. Was there for LYRA this year, its a friendly club.