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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. firefox v57 quantum

  2. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Okay, but why make that point here? JA appears to be profoundly ignorant about boats. It is embarrassingly obvious that she has no idea what she's talking about. She's got the crazy and the ignorant.
  3. firefox v57 quantum

    Me too, but the FP is also broken in Chrome right now.
  4. firefox v57 quantum

    Three out of eight of the extensions I had installed still work. I suspect that most of the dead will get resurrected in time.
  5. firefox v57 quantum

    Save for the add-on apocalypse it's working fine for me.
  6. Anyone used Kiwigrip and removed it?

    I prefer to bolt the winches to the boat. It protects the finish and keeps my mind from wondering where they might get off to on their own. It is easy to repair dings in Kiwi Grip. That's one of it's charms. However, if it's peeling then you need to remove all the loose paint first. I've seen a couple of Kiwi Grip jobs that had peel problems. The worst was a charter cat that was painted by a professional paint shop who know what they are doing and have had many good results. However, as a rule, the stuff sticks very well. IME, Kiwi Grip is good paint. I've used it on my boats with good results. I've seen good results from pros and amateurs on projects simple to sublime. But, it's just a paint. It isn't going to stick to a contaminated surface. Its properties are a compromise that may not be desirable for every job.
  7. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    I wouldn't bet money on it, but my guess is that the mess is supposed to hold the upper on to the spreader or at least supposed to give that impression. I can't see what's going on under those spreader boots. Maybe they forgot the seizing wire? Departing Honolulu they'd have been on port and there was a period of fresh to frightening so that leeward spreader would have been bouncing around.
  8. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Maybe the Coen brothers could do something with it? It's a tragi-comic saga. I think the fishermen who lost a days work and expenses to help these bozos should get a chunk of the gross.
  9. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Yep. I was questioning Dawn Riley's statement which was more general.
  10. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Oh hell. That's just sad. It does explain a lot. Some things it's better not to know.
  11. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Good interview. Thanks for the link. Strangely, DR seems to claim there are no sharks at sea because of trash in the North Pacific Gyre? Did I hear that correctly? Just for the record, pelagic sharks are a thing and folks do occasionally see them from small boats at sea. Once, about half way from Rarotonga to Hilo on a glassy calm day I went for a swim and then convinced my girl friend to go for a swim. As she was swimming back to the boat I noticed the tinniest shark I've ever seen swimming next to the boat. The entirely hypothetical hungry shark mother associated with the pup didn't eat the GF so I was pleased, though I suppose the EHHSM might have been disappointed. I've got a friend who tells a story of a shark repeatedly ramming into the spade rudder of his boat. He claims that he was seriously worried that the shark would damage the rudder but eventually it appeared to stun itself and drifted off. I make no claims about the truth of that story. However, I don't think there's any doubt that sharks live and hunt in the open ocean and, as wild animals, their behavior isn't entirely predictable. Also, is it just me or do the twitter links not work correctly in Firefox?
  12. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    What's your point? The charts are adequate when looking for 3 days of force 11. Since we don't know where they were with any precision the big picture tells us all we're likely to know. They probably saw strong trades and it blew hard in the usually windy places for about a day as the H passed N of the state. We can look at the station reports and model data if there's some question they might answer.
  13. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Join the team. Maybe we should get shirts? However, if I'm looking at the right dates, her revised claim that they sailed through WX they found difficult and daunting isn't hard to believe. (nb. Hawaii Time is UTC - 10. The 5 May 1200Z chart has the highest wind report I could find near Hawaii.)
  14. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Reporting on the reporting, recursive, meta thing (TL;DR -- "we did good and Trump lies") : http://www.civilbeat.org/2017/11/reader-rep-debunking-the-tale-of-two-women-lost-at-sea/