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      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    Translation of the radio talk that you can find here (all in French, of course...) " I just realized that it is the first time I spend so much time on this boat. We are starting to get into a routine. I am starting to take care of her, just like I did on the Vendée Globe, with the IMOCA. You actually start to build a relationship, an intimacy. It is her and you, and nobody else around. It is something that never happens when sailing with a crew, or even solo for short races; you do not have enough time then to build up this relationship. Wind slowed down, I did a small check of the boat this morning. I do not talk to the boat yet, but it is going to come... The link with the boat is getting stronger: this is also one of the reasons I do this type of sailing. There is one thing I have no regrets about, it is the deck layout and the protected cockpit. I had some doubts or some questions during the construction of the boat, but right after the first sailing trials, I realized how good it is. When you look at the top speeds we reach, and the sailing conditions, it is just a must. I feel safe in the cockpit and it is very important, to be able to sail really fast. You don't see me much in foul weather gear, but I still wear it sometimes, but then I do not get the camera out. But actually the complete foul weather gear, I have not worn it often... For exemple, the day of the 24 hr record, or even the day before, because it was still going really fast, and the temperature was still warm, I was in boxer shorts and Crocs, at 35 or 40 knots.... You are going super fast, and you get up from your bunk, and trim in a sheet, all of that done bare foot; you do not need to protect yourself anymore than that. Actually, you have to protect yourself from the motion of the boat. It doesn't seem much but actually, when you do not wear much, the shocks and bumps can hurt more; you have to be careful. But you are protected, and even if you think about the worse case scenario, a capsize, you know that you are in an enclosed space, and it is really re-assuring. Right now, I am going across a ridge, so a windless zone, between the low pressure system that pushed me all the way to Cape of Good Hope, and the next low pressure system which is this depression coming from Madagascar. So right now, not much wind, about 10 knots, downwind, and I just jibed 3 minutes ago, before the call. I am smack in the middle of the ridge. So the wind is going to pick up again, and potentially getting pretty strong, in the coming hours. "
  2. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    ^^^ HaHa! That is a good one; the writer is making a comparison between Gabart situation, and driving south for summer vacation on jammed highways, and with truck drivers on strike, blocking the highway in slow motion... Also, the "backbone" in the first paragraphe is "dorsale" in French; litterally, it refers to your spine... It is a term used in French meteorology to describe a high pressure ridge; like your spine sticking a bit out of your back... I will work on this one, tonight, if you want.
  3. Transat Jacques Vabre

    Translation from the latest news on https://www.voile.princedebretagne.com/ A lower shroud failed without any apparent reason. Lionel Lemonchois and Bernard Stamm were sailing on calm seas, in about 15 knots of wind. The mast fell slowly. The sailors were able to recover everything (mast, boom,...) They are currently trying to slow down the drift of the boat. Eastern Tradewinds are pushing the boat at about 0.9 knots. They do not have a working engine, following the failure of their generator, a few days ago. They are currently adrift. A boat from the Navy just left to meet them and should be on site in less than 5 hours.
  4. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    Talking about auto-pilot, a tidbit of information from Macif website. As suspected, he is not spending much time behind the wheel... « Driving for a RTW record, single handed, does not happen at the steering wheel. It is basically the autopilot that is taking care of that. For instance, since Monday, I have not touched the steering wheel once », explained François Gabart, on Tuesday. « Driving, it is finding the right angle, in relation to the waves pattern and the wind, finding a way to make the boat go fast, but smoothly. You have to listen to the boat. You have to notice vibrations that are not right; suspicious noises, usually they are the important signs that you need to change something to go fast.»
  5. Transat Jacques Vabre

    In reference to post 176 by GauchoGreg the French version of the interview on Transat Jacques Vabre web site is much more complete, so here is a translation... About close racing Thomas Rouxel, co-skipper of Maxi Edmond de Rothschild « It was stressing, but it was great! We had close racing with Sodebo. It still is double handed multihull racing; so the level of adrenalin is pretty high. I am still surfing on that high, but I know that it is going to go down. It was an intense race. Clearly, racing less than 50 miles away from your competitor, it is great fun. You are always tweaking the sails. It is very stimulating. » Thomas Coville, skipper of Sodebo Ultim’ « When we left Le Havre, we said it would be a mano a mano fight. From the very first night, we figured out that it was going to be really hot... We saw them over pass us, upwind from us; I can tell you that the Maxi Edmond de Rothschild sailing at 40 knots, it's really beautiful. Off Guernesey, they really impressed us because the way they sailed meant "we are here!". They gained a bit on us in this phase of the race. » Sébastien Josse, skipper ofMaxi Edmond de Rothschild « Hats off about the strategy by Thomas and Jean-Luc offshore the Azores Islands. They protected the West side, this is the turning point. We could have followed, or do many other things to counter this attack. But arriving in Bahia with the boat in one piece, and staying in close racing all along, it is already pretty good. We are competitors, obviously we would have preferred to be 2 hours ahead of them rather than 2 hours behind! » Jean-Luc Nélias, co-skipper of Sodebo Ultim’ « It is a mechanical sport. You have to push, push, push. And the guy next to you is doing the same thing. It is like the mountains stage in the Tour de France, you never know when the leader is going to attack. We spent our time looking behind us, wondering when they would come back. It is hard to manage on a tactical point of view. Do you protect your position, or do you attack? We decided to attack because the boat is strong and reliable. We followed the straightest possible tracks. We did not leave a crumb on the table. But he (Sebastien Josse) did not slow down. The night of the start, near Guernesey, it was incredible, you really had to hang on, not to get kicked out of the boat. And right there, they over passed us. They were going really strong. » Foils issues on Maxi Edmond de Rothschild NDLR : Before going through the cold front, the port foil failed, and then getting close to Cabo Verde Islands, the starboard foil failed... Sébastien Josse « The exit of the Bay of Biscay was not super easy, and we got our fair share of daily surprises. We got some issues on the foils that prevented us from flying. It was a bit of a handicap. It is a composite issue; we will have to look into that more in details. I do not know the root cause yet. The foils are not as solid as they used to. They are more flexible than they should be. On the last part of the race, it is where we should have had our highest speed. It was frustrating, because we could have exploited the boat potential to its fullest. We could have been really, really fast... We were not attacking at the end. We stayed a little more offshore to have a bit more wind. Sodebo took an option near the shore. We were limiting ourselves to a given speed to stay in control of the boat; because of our foil problems. At some point, you have to be realistic. 100 miles from the finish line, and 70 miles behind, the probability to overpass them is nearly nill, unless they have a really big problem... But arriving in Bahia is really a big deal for our team. If we had been only 10 miles behind, the mindset would have been different. » Thomas Coville « After the long downwind leg, after going through the front, we felt something strange was going on. They furled their gennaker during the night and they created some lateral separation. So then we went more Westward and we overpass them. We thought "Maybe they want to play it safe". We did not know. Until this morning, we gave it everything. Last night, at 100 miles from the finish, we felt they were giving up. It was an exhilarating moment. The only thing we could see in their track, was their maneuvers. Them, I do not think they could see ours because we worked a lot for that, to have a very straighten track. I have never pushed the boat so much single handed, especially on reaching. Jean-Luc was super comfortable on reaching; I did not have my limit at that level.» Jean-Luc Nélias « Nothing had come through (of Edmond de Rothschild problems???? but we would have done it the same way anyway. Anything could happen until the end.» A victory, and a beautiful second place in the Class Ultim… Thomas Coville « It is a beautiful victory, because it shows that we can do other things that break records, we also know how to win races. It is a great story, we did not leave much behind. When you look at the state of the boat today, after the crossing we did, it is the result of an enormous amount of work. All the teams have greatly improved. When you look at what they did with Edmond de Rothschild, in two months time, to bring the boat to Bahia, clearly we are going to hear again about this boat... What is really tricky, in our mechanical sports, you have to be at the right time, at the right place, in the right shape. To wind the TJV, first you have to be at the start, but at the right level of technical preparedness at the right time. The whole competition has raised the bar. » Sébastien Josse « At the end of the day, it is satisfying. The boat was put in the water in July last year. We did not have much time to prepare it and train. It is multihull racing. You are always at very high speed, stressed and super focused. For sure, you appreciate the finish line... Finishing a few hours behind, it is a bit unnerving, but is is only the start of the story for this boat. The boat has a huge potential. » Jean-Luc Nélias « It is great to win a Transat Jacques Vabre ! It is not easy, you have to fight. 8 days ago, we were all in Le Havre, and now, we are on another continent, in another hemisphere. One day you are at Cabo Verde Islands, the following day you are in the Doldrums. The day before yesterday we were in the Doldrums, and last night we were sailing among Brazilian fishermen. They could not figure out that 48 hours earlier, we were in Cabo Verde Islands! We leave Le Havre with the full moon. Each night the moon is in a different place in the sky; we are sailing at the scale of the planet ».
  6. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    He is slacking off... He slept almost 5 hours in the last 24 hours....
  7. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    Is he on the verge of out-pacing the low pressure system he is riding right now? It seems to me that by getting slowly further and further ahead of the current depression, he could very well bump into the no-wind zone in front of him. I guess that would be a first for a single handed sailor... Also, the location of the ice is going to be critical. If he wants to sneak pass the no-wind zone in front of him, my wild-ass-guess is that he will have to go down to South 48° ish, around East 28°ish... in about 48-52 hours, right? But can he go that South without hitting ice? Also, according to Macif website (below cartographie chart) he is sleeping less than 4 hr per 24 hrs almost consistently. The most I have seen was just above 4 hrs... How is he doing it?!
  8. Transat Jacques Vabre

    Please forgive me for being pedantic... It's "Doldrums", not "Duldrums"... https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doldrums As far as I can tell, there is nothing dull about sailing in this area of the world...
  9. Gitana Maxi 17

    Simply mesmerizing....
  10. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    I agree, just looking at the tracker, and I ain't no router! If he does catch that low pressure system coming from South America, talk about a kick in the rear, and what a shortcut compared to the track of Sodebo last time!
  11. Gitana Maxi 17

    Nope, it's the other way around. The beams and the floats are from the original Geronimo, with new bows for the floats, The main hull is completely new (31 meters instead of 34 meters on Geronimo), lower/thinner and MUCH lighter. Also, did you know that the foils and float rudders are coming from US17 from Oracle Racing, winner of the AC in 2010??? The mast is new and coming from the molds of the mast of the former Groupama 3... The boat is 6 tons lighter than Geronimo, apparently. All informations from Bateaux.com
  12. Team Actual west-ward tour

    Translation of the post by Stief: Actual has broken its main sheet traveler and is heading back...
  13. Mini Transat 2017

    Erwan le Mene (3rd in proto class after the first leg) has had a rudder issue. From the race website, he apparantly told the race organization that he intends to go to Dakar to repair... Why Dakar, which adds 200 miles, rather than one of the Cabo Verde islands? I don't know... Arthur Leopold-Leger, who finished 2nd of the first leg in proto class also has some technical issues; he intends to stop and repair in Mindelo.
  14. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    Holly SHIT !! After 5 hours, in the middle of the Bay of Biscay, WITH A VMG OF 38.7 KNOT!!! Is that fast enough for you???
  15. Mini Transat 2017

    There is a bug on the "cartographie". The small pop up window that appears when you click on a boat shows incorrect data for the 4 hrs and 24 hrs periods. I know that Ian Lipinsky is fast, but 263 knots over 24 hrs???? He should be in the Pacific by now... The distance is wrong as well, once again, more than 200 miles in 4 hrs means that he beats Spindrift 2 by a fair margin for the 24 hrs run... Bugger.