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  1. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Thank you for the tips Dave! Couldn’t get out the last few days - maybe tomorrow. Thank you again for taking the time to come tutor us. Saved us 6 months of crashes. Rigging video is terrific! More useful info in that video than all emails and posts combined. Would love have you back in the spring for UFO North Americans. We have pretty good wind in the spring.
  2. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    duwke: come sail my #4, I will video you on your sail - steak dinner on me and your SO if you do a foiling gybe. Same offer if you don't make it. Charlie
  3. TF10 foiler... what could possibly go wrong!?.....

    A Class Sailor: Yes indeed! A few minutes instruction and with headset-comms anybody can foil on most of these boats. Maybe not a Moth. Observation: many dinghy sailors do not know how easy it is to trap. Likewise, many cat sailors do not know about dinghy hiking and zero-cleat sheeting. My 2 cents. Still learning - and having a ball with it! Charlie
  4. F16 like foiler?

    Martin, we need to get together and cross-sail our boats as a part of our education. I bet I can can flip your boat as fast as you can flip mine! I can bring an S9 and a UFO, you can bring a Whisper. Maybe we can get Bruce Mahoney to bring his A and John Bartlett to bring his Moth. Somewhere here, there, or in between. Free housing here. Nice facilities, too. What happened to Foiling Week in USA? Move it here (please)? Charlie
  5. F16 like foiler?

    What happened to the OP? Yes, I am biased toward the S9 - I admit that. If you are looking for "robust" please consider the S9. Still amazes me how many newby foilers have failed to break our boats. We had a 14-year-old young man on the S9 last Friday. Foiled in his first 5 minutes on the boat. Beat me in one race on Saturday. Pissed me off. (Not really.) We've also had an 8-year old foil with his Dad many times. "kid-friendly" is a bit ambiguous - make our own conclusions. ryecatsailor: go sail the boats you are considering - too personal a choice to go by what us yo-yos here say.
  6. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    TN and Claire, thank you for your comments. wrt one-design: Claire, of course you are not a jerk in any way. Disclosure: I am not a true one-design fan. If common sense is concerned with ease of use I have no problem. (quick-pins vs ring dings - really?) Watch Tomko trying to hold up the main foil column - not pretty. My adjustments all derive from that. Dave showed us the "raised foil" technique - we didn't make that up. We just reacted to that. I showed Dave how much drag the wand induces in light air. Hope that affected his views somewhat. But yes, I do understand "one-design" concepts, but they should never buck common sense. TN: I am just trying to keep my butt out of the water at this point! One thing I learned over all these years is the hackneyed statement: "if you want to finish first you first have to finish". (Learned from my dirt-bike days.) At the low altitude I am sailing I have no opportunity to sail with windward heel. Dragging your tushie through the water in the lulls will need to be balanced with full-height foiling in the gusts. Only on the race course can these things be resolved - and that is the beauty of what have here in Texas. We'll experiment until we find what works against other boats. We'll figure this out on the race course - I just hope that stereotypical "one-design" rules don't impede this progress. Once I moved my weight back the boat seemed to pop out of the water more easily. Maybe I had too much rudder lift? Don't know - need more TOTW. Boat-to boat is the best way to figure these things out. Somebody acts as the rabbit - and we all progress. Please - more comments - anyone?
  7. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Thank you bill4. Man, if you thought that was awkward check out post# 1116 (and the comments after that). This is my first dinghy (after 45 years of cat sailing). Thought I already knew how to sheet . Anyway, kept the boat pointy-end up the last four foiling sessions. That's due to dumb luck or to good lessons. I prefer to credit the latter.
  8. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Went out today and tried to employ Dave's and Lifesave's lessons and advice. Wind 11-15 mph, choppy water. Now I need a longer wand - mine went swimming. Substitute wand is 12 inches too short. Low flight only. https://youtu.be/PK8bU3gYIh8
  9. 14' Stunt S9 Foiling Cat

    Wurstfest photos: 3 S9s! https://canyonlake.smugmug.com/2017-WFR-II-Multihulls/
  10. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Historical 3-boat UFO Texas fleet racing at Wurstfest Regatta. We raced with the Portsmouth Dinghies and the Daysailers. Photos by Ray Leubner - thank you Ray! https://canyonlake.smugmug.com/2017-WFR-I-Portsmouth-Daysailer/
  11. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Wheelies: everything's relative I guess. Here is my friend Will with a world-class wheelie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_B_BBIiSoo
  12. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Another Dave tip: The main foil generates downforce when the wand is fully forward. If the wand adjustment is incorrect that won't happen. Ensure that you have a tiny gap between the actuating rod and the main foil flap when the wand is fully forward. You don't want any pre-loaded downforce on the actuator. Adjustment is via threaded rod in the square tube holding the wand. Thanks to Dave for repairing the flap on my main foil.
  13. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    For the record: I hope Dave sells a potload of these boats. There is a huge gap in the market that the UFO fills quite nicely IMHO. No boat is perfect in it's first edition. My tweaks and changes are intended to enhance the boat - they're not offered as criticisms. You know - like adding headers and electronic ignitions............but I guess most of you are too young to remember those days. Never mind .
  14. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    wsailor: good questions, I am glad you asked. I originally tied the pull up line to the bullseye fairlead, but at the first try the screws pulled out! The fairlead is engineered to pull down, not up. It is screwed into a rubber cap, not suitable for pulling up. I sawed a slot in the bullseye fairlead to shorten and streamline the hold-down line. As delivered from the factory, the line was too short to work and the slack was tremendous. pita. If you saw a slot in the fairlead, and add a little 5200 to it, you can get by with only 1 fitting instead of three, and a much shorter line. Pic was taken before I sawed the slot. Perhaps the fairlead isn't needed at all. Dave: cost reduction!! To raise the rudder, uncleat the line, pull the slack forward of the ring ding, and pill up the rudder. Much simpler than the original config.
  15. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Dave's tuning tip #3: rudder rake. Red calibration marks are mine.