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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Peacefrog- I bought SOCA from them. I need to quickly switch to 155% for light stuff. I sold the boat years ago and it is in Montana.
  2. Hawk, Paul Amon built a few boats like this. The problem is rig would need to get taller like what Melges did with 32 for conversion from 30.
  3. On the hendo we had the pole to windward unless reaching. No issues moving the pole after the jibe...
  4. Already have... has Vc-17 bottom and roller furller on top of asking $22k+ for it... 2004 sold this yr in CT for $13k
  5. All Melges 32 will built by SOCA Sailboats in Trinidad... Melges 24 Worlds are the end of them month.... I'm sure they are busy getting ready for a 100+ boat regatta... A SUPERSONIC SPEED RACER.The Melges 32� is a superior racer with a big, high performance attitude. It is the culmination of the finest in progressive sailboat engineering and design by Reichel/Pugh, the craft and professional talent of Paul Amon at SOCA Sailboats in Trinidad and Melges Performance Sailboats� incomparable experience and acumen. The Melges 32 takes one design racing to the next level.
  6. Thanks I have been in contact with all except Denver
  7. anyone know of any others for sale?
  8. usually kept to modify the new one to be like the old one. Melges has changed the design several times.
  9. All white masts are more flexible then the new black masts... are you sure it is a 2008?
  10. J-29 Frac E= 1ft bigger then MH P= 3.80ft bigger then MH J= 0.50ft smaller then MH I= 5.00ft smaller then MH SA (Fore) = 39.75 sqft smaller then MH SA (Main) = 42.20 sqft bigger then NH J-29 Frac RIG AND SAIL PARTICULARS KEY I(IG): 35.00' / 10.67m J: 11.50' / 3.51m P: 38.80' / 11.83m E: 13.00' / 3.96m PY: EY: ISP: SPL/TPS: SA(Fore.): 201.25 ft2 / 18.70 m2SA(Main): 252.20 ft2 / 23.43 m2Sail Area (100% fore+main triangles): 453.45 ft2 / 42.13 m2Sail Area/Disp.2: 23.35 Est. Forestay Length.: 36.84' / 11.23m J-29 Masthead RIG AND SAIL PARTICULARS KEY I(IG): 40.00' / 12.19m J: 12.00' / 3.66m P: 35.00' / 10.67m E: 12.00' / 3.66m PY: EY: ISP: SPL/TPS: SA(Fore.): 240.00 ft2 / 22.30 m2SA(Main): 210.00 ft2 / 19.51 m2Sail Area (100% fore+main triangles): 450.00 ft2 / 41.80 m2Sail Area/Disp.2: 21.87 Est. Forestay Length.: 41.76' / 12.73m
  11. 40+ boats signed up for J105 NAs.... http://yachtscoring.com/current_event_entries.cfm?eID=1658
  12. It keeps getting a lot of views... someone will pick it up
  13. Just go turbo like this guy with a Mumm 36 rig!!! http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1988/J-Boat-Turbo-33-2997646/Niceville/FL/United-States#.V-E0gKJsXeQ
  14. Melges 30 in classifieds? Of if looking for a Turn key 105.... http://sailinganarchy.com/classifieds/show-ad/?id=2611