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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. FP - "why PHRF fails"

    As in something like Portsmouth with wind range mods? In a moderately well organized regatta, there might be frequent wind readings recorded from both the committee boat and a mark set/top mark boat. Could be a hand-held meter (Kestrel etc.) or a masthead instrument. In a more casual regatta, the guy/gal running it might just be eyeballing the wind and doing a very rough average.
  2. 1D35 Stolen from Kona Kai Marina in San Diego

    Anyone checked the hangers in the Riverside airport?
  3. 2 Part Rule Question - Finishing

    We hope the east side of the island doesn't have a weird shape and the finish boat is in a good position so that the island end of the finish line is reasonably clear. Depending on the shape of the island, the nearest point at which finishers are between some part of the island and the finish boat could be much further north than the nearest point of the island, and could be so far away that the finish boat people have a hard time identifying finishing boats and determining times. If this isn't fixed, more worms, if folks get into a "leading edge/nearest point/trailing edge of the mark" debate. Big ones. Another problem with *$&! islands. Which finish line is correct below, A, B, C, D, for a shortened course with the boats coming from the north (top of page), toward the finish boat in the position drawn below, where the island is the mark for "the finishing line shall be, (a) at a rounding mark, between the mark and a staff displaying flag S;"?
  4. 2 Part Rule Question - Finishing

    There would be the radical notion of being nice to the racers. Given the size of the island, navigating to it isn't supposed to be part of a test of racers' navigation skills. All on the open race channel: "Attention all XY Race boats, this is the Finish Boat. We are anchored for a shortened course on the southeast side of what is marked on your SIs as Mark C, Doubtful Island. You will finish between our S flag and the nearest point on the southeast shore; we are at lat long x y. Don't try to round. Just go down the east side of the island. Please acknowledge. "Finish boat to RC, we had to anchor on the southeast side of Doubtful Island, in position to shorten course, repeat southeast side, We're waiting for boats to head to us down the east side of the island for the shortened course at location lat x long y s.e. of the island." "Finish boat to chase boat... Please go out and let us know if anyone is going the wrong way and headed for the west side of Doubtful Island." .... "Finish boat to RC, chase boat is in position to watch out if anyone screws up and tries to go west of Doubtful Island." "Finish boat to RC, we can see our probable first finisher heading south along the east coast of Doubtful Island." Okay, so I'm accustomed to working with the occasional low-information racer.
  5. Rules Question - an odd Rule 18 situation

    B's inside position and protection under 18.3 would also apply for a starboard rounding (once A gets around to fetching). Wording of the original situation a bit confusing... they are already in the zone (within 3 boat lengths of the mark) but will (in the future) converge 2.5 boat lengths from the mark ... and then B is gonna have room to tack as well ... that's a lot of stuff trying to go on in a small space and time; not sure that works too well logistically and can all happen in half a boat length. A diagram might help. Why would A not have corrected her overstanding of the mark before reaching the zone? Anyhow, A can probably fix this while B is jerking around tacking inside the zone. Why are we talking about proper course here? It's not going to get a chance to become relevant. Why is B now having to pinch to fetch the mark after tacking onto starboard? If it's a starboard rounding, she's outside of A and will have wait for A to turn; if it's a port rounding, she wouldn't have been allowed to go inside of A while tacking in the zone. Tactically, A could probably have footed off a bit before reaching the zone and forced B to tack out of port-starboard situation; proper course would not apply. I'm just having a hard time picturing this situation as being very sensible. no comprendo. Peeechure, pleeese.
  6. Russian Yacht detained by North Korea

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/05/15/world/russian-officials-say-north-korea-released-detained-yacht/
  7. Is one of you an author?

    www.jimlynchbooks.com lynchjames@comcast.net "He now lives and sails in Olympia, Washington with his wife, Denise...."
  8. Rio, Front Page...The Discarded

    There's good sailing water just an hour or two's drive south of Rio... but, no, that wasn't as good for tv. TV is much more important than the health of athletes or the quality of competition.
  9. Sailing Business

    Wanna make a small fortune? Got a large one to start with now?
  10. An organizing authority or RC might put in some equipment, technical, safety, or administrative requirements in the NOR or SIs, but may regard them as issues between the OA/RC and each boat, and not suitable for use as a "gotcha" for one boat to get another boat DSQ'd. For example, the SIs might have a requirement that boats participating in a particular race have VHF, for the convenience of the RC/OA delivering certain information, managing the course, determining who is on the course, and perhaps secondarily as a safety feature. So it might designate that SI as something that's the OA/RC/PC's exclusive turf to protest, and could also allow penalties less than DSQ.
  11. Design questions for Bob and friends

    Are drop bears offset on Aussie boat designs?
  12. Time to Burn Down ISAF and US Sailing

    RRS differ from COLREGs/IRPCAS for good reasons. Also, with careful thought, it is possible to write a simplified set of racing rules suitable for cognitively impaired sailors, if that is a need.
  13. Also Ensigns at Dillon, Colorado.
  14. Ensigns are also big on the west coast of Lake Michigan (Pentwater); Marquette, MI; Les Cheneaux Islands, MI; and Cleveland. A good sized fleet down here in Houston as well. Mostly terrifying.