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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Congrats on the rescue! My first boat was a Catalina 25 with a similar story.
  2. You probably already know, but there are 9 J/88's on southern Lake Mich, 5-7 in Chicago proper if you just want to see one in person. MidPack - Thanks. My profile needs an update. I'm out in CT/NY these days. BSP hooked me up for a ride earlier in the season and I raced NA's with Blondie2. Good times. The joke was the one by the McMichaels office had our name on it. You never know.....
  3. Thanks for confirming. I'm hoping to get my wife over to check them out? Why are they going to have 5 there? Winter storage? I figured they'd have theirs available to check out.
  4. What's the tally on hull numbers these days?
  5. If you're not racing GP and are playing with the freshman in a GT class I don't see why you'd be buying more than 2 new sails per year. Unless you were the bench warming high schooler that snuck onto the Jr. High playground so you could be the best. If the goal is fun to play, make it fun. The rule should be public shaming of any twit that is trying to win a GT style class with $$$$. Since I don't check in her much.... -expensive parking - yup, but by the lines at the bars I bet there are plenty of peeps meeting the demographic said to be targeted within public transit, UBER, or whatever the millennial flavor of the day is right outside their door. BTW, they were out chasing tinder tail at the bars so might want to push that start time back a tad. -Good on ya'll for trying to work it out, but just go sail. Share some crew around to boats that are short if when needed. I picked up a ride with some great people that way this year. Met new people, broadened my network. They've rung twice when needing someone. Another time I was the difference maker in getting an additional boat out on a Wed Night. I don't know that I ever saw a crew split/consolidate on a Wed for the sake of helping more boats on the line. Surely there's some owners at the clubs that would be gung ho to go out, but aren't up for getting a crew together. Help them out. All it takes is sharing 1 person from the regular crew (preferably someone who actually knows what they're up to). 3-4 boats do this as ambassadors and you might get another boat on the line. -Paying to race down under? That's pretty stupid IMOH. They must have some serious demand for crew as we discuss how to even get people out. A voluntary chip in from crew, bringing beer, food is cool, etc is cool but that's a far cry from paying a fee. As previously noted, the crew is putting up some $$$ to just get to the dock. One area Pay to Play may be OK is if a OD cooperative fleet/club was set up. In Brooklyn they have a fleet of J70/Melges 24's and you can join for about $3k year give or take depending on the level of membership. Doesn't seem to bad when you consider it's a walk on walk off relationship. -What's up with the youth sailing scene? How many owners have/had kids and are they sailing now? Teach 'em early and have sailors for life.