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  1. Hang the rich

    You’ve simply restated what I said in a way that you feel sounds more respectable. But what I said with sarcasm is what you believe wholeheartedly. The rich have gamed the system and you enable them, probably to justify your current status. That’s entirely understandable, btw; the need to be civic minded or Christian is not mandated. So don’t worry, you, like the rest of the GOP, are within your rights. But don’t expect those of us who ARE educated to believe you represent a moral authority. We observe that you are just looking out for privileged white men. That’s currently the only role the US government has which the GOP feels is worth funding, or as the case may be, worth going ever deeper into debt.
  2. Trump better for Blacks than Obama

    Hate is being fed, watered and cultivated by this administration. This hatred can split societies, foment unrest and lead to persecution. Its a prime example of maladministration, almost something a powerful rival country would like to see created to destabilize their competitor.
  3. Hang the rich

    That’s exactly how it could be fixed... revising the inequity so that it’s repaired, but Jeff’s point is that the rich paid for those ill gotten gains. They spent the time shmoozing the politicians and courting their votes. Jeff just wants the poor to show the same initiative. They just presently lack the opportunity, the gumption, the organization and the follow through. Once the indigent get off their lazy butts & demonstrate effective lobbying technique they’ll begin to get _and deserve_ their rich rewards.
  4. Donald Trump & the GOP Jeopardize Our National Security

    Hard to respect a guy after your prostitutes have peed on him
  5. Health care sticker shock

    And his is part of the reason our healthcare has become so expensive. Healthcare has become a political football. Whether to tie employees more tightly to employers, or simply another way to transfer wealth to big business, lobbyists and politicians are able to weaponize opinions to “guide” debates. The answer is that opioid addiction has been politicized; it’s a hot topic and in the news, so politicians see profit and exposure by “tackling” the problem. As proof, note this only became possible after drug addiction deaths started impacting the lives of more the GOP base: as long as it was perceived to only be a problem for the indigent, low life, Democrat-leaning, or pigment enabled scum it wasn’t a big problem for the GOP. Now it’s got legs. Im not saying only the GOP plays political games for healthcare and insurance reform, just that GOP efforts produce less social justice and are easier examples for scorn.
  6. Is it Time For The GOP To Take Out The Trash?

    By not dealing with Moore’s issues, the GOP will double down on acceptance of mysogynist behavior bordering on criminal pedophelia. This risks alienating real churches, not the for-profit Evangelicals and monster churches but the ones real people attend. Between that and ruining healthcare for millions, taxing the middle & lower classes, and protecting students from for-profit education scams the GOP will trash it’s connection with “family values”. Ignoring the implications science has for policy or the role diplomats might have in the quelling of tensions currently rising in the Middle East, the Republican Party will be seen as misinformed and untrustworthy. And now that China is gaining preeminence in Asian markets and on the world stage since we have withdrawn from the TPP & Paris Accords, the GOP risks not be seen as the pro-business party. But they got still got guns, staunchly Pro-Life and NASCAR. None of those poll as choices of a majority of Americans, though. Republicans seem to be racing for irrelevancy, crony capitalism, rent seeking, racism and moral turpitude. They are not planning for tomorrow economically, environmentally, medically or internationally. They are striving to become yesterday’s leaders, soon to be forgotten.
  7. Ru$$ian $pending

    I’m not concerned about the effectiveness of the ads. I’m concerned about the Trump team requesting the GOP platform at their convention be stripped of any support for sanctions against Russia regarding Ukraine. A quid pro quo tying sanctions relief to financial or political support from an adversarial country is treasonous. I don’t give a shit if the ads were effective. It’s the collusion with Russians, potential history of money laundering and double dealing I care about. Stick this thread up your lily white derrières you mealy mouthed apologists. Your lack of patriotism is showing.
  8. This is an example of why we don't trust Gun Grabberz

    IMO gun nuts are the epitome of folks who won’t listen. Many immediately bring up threats of violent resistance when new laws are proposed. These people are limited by having a tool for violence. If you have a hammer... Its coming, folks. The day that gun-o-philes fear. The day when Americans decide that gun owners have had long enough to deal effectively with the obvious problems. And failed to act. All these “rational” arguments against limiting guns will be irrelevant because the underlying “it’s our right” premise relies on one interpretation of a phrase that is not universally accepted. We know that allowing Americans to own guns is associated with a measurable rate of inappropriate usage. Limiting ownership by type, number or ammunition in order to drastically reduce this rate is well within the purview of the people, and by extension, our government. It’s only a matter of time: how many slaughterfests will it take to tip the scales?
  9. Trump Voters: We'd Do it Again

    I agree with 3:1; millions of Americans of all stripes became weary of Hillary “scandals.” Republicans made it very clear that if “that bitch” “that cunt” “that (insert any other mysogynist term here”) got elected, things would slow to a crawl in DC. If you thought things were bad under that black man (insert racist term here), they were going to be miserable under her. No one wanted that other than a majority of Americans.
  10. Drip Drip Drip

    1. Habeus corpus 2. Poor conviction rate
  11. Hang the rich

    Avoiding the poo flinging, but I'm interested in the subject. I've often wondered what much of America.... makes. Paper is pushed, data is analyzed, charts are made, shares are bought & sold. But at the end of the day aren't all these financial "services" just skimming profit off the top? Last year I had a conversation with the son of son of a financial scion who is therefore several generations removed from actual labor. He was quite excited to go into "investment brokering" or some such. He attends an elite university across the pond and is quite impressed with himself. He speaks of the powerful ability of such experts to maximize the utility of investment dollars. I asked him, don't you want your life to have meaning? Don't you want to build something or create something of value? He was, predictably, stunned by my perspective, and that is likely the last time we will have a meaningful conversation. On paper, America makes money, owes money, has money. But so much of our economy, especially the financial sector, but increasingly the schemes used to pay for healthcare, education and (obviously) housing are exposed to be fraudulent predation of the rich/businesses against the people. Is this economy sustainable?
  12. Jared Grabs Some

    Lucky boy. But that dress looks like tinfoil.
  13. Election Night 2017

    Actually, since several sources have been named, and a couple even arrested, this should bbe our concern. Our president and Atty General have been caught lying repeatedly on the issue, several high ranking administration officials have a network of investments with Russia that they failed to disclose, and a known foreign agent was temporarily our National Security Advisor. So, yeah, intra party shenanigans that are gradually coming to light aren’t nearly as important as collusion with foreign governments. One is Americans working the political system to their “advantage” (albeit not that successfully) and the other is called “treason”, or sat the very least, “maladministration”. These latter two are impeachable offenses, and therefore more important than campaign hard ball. Glad you are seeing the facts, gRumbles.
  14. Election Night 2017

    Responding to A_guy is going to require us to take a step back and consider just what “limited” government would look like, but then to ask whether that makes sense in today’s ‘s world. In a pure world, unadulterated by human instincts to greed, fraud and NIMBY instincts, government is unnecessary. The FFs were able to always expand west, create public momentum for good works and use land for public purposes without too much trouble. If we had our ‘druthers, we’d pay minimal taxes, and smoothly efficient businesses would fulfill all of society’s basic needs, and governmental intervention would not be required. But, the FFs had the luxury of contending with a homogeneous society, if you avoided looking too closely, and failed to address what their own words “All men are created equal” meant. Even Hamilton and Jefferson has massive debates about first principles with Jefferson’s “limited” government ultimately outcompeting Hamilton’s ideas about the strength of a central gvmnt. Of course, once prez, Jefferson kept the central bank to make the Louisiana Purchase, and where would we be if he had refused? After a few centuries its become clear that one role of government has become looking after the health and welfare of our citizens, maintaining a strong judiciary, promoting and organizing large infrastructure projects, and national defense. This has spawned the FDA, DEA,NTSB, NOAA,EPA... a veritable laundry list of acronyms. Much of their effort is restraining industry from ruining our planet, and banks from trying to gobble up all our money. We also have a state Dept, defense Dept and Dept of Education because privatizing these items is in the national interest. Much as “limited gvmnt” types would like to argue, America has decided that leaving the functions of these agencies to the whims of the private sector does not relevant ably lead to acceptable results. In fact, most “limited government “ proponents seems to be exceedingly wealthy, single issue voters, or pie-in-the-sky idealists who yearn for a utopia based on 1950s sensibilities. Correcting their vision is costly, because they are well funded by the 0.1%. It is challenging, because we are fighting very entrenched and “identity” issues (single issue voters) and require changing fundamental values... gays are people, women deserve fair treatment not mysogeny, and racism needs to be exposed. This ain’t easy for any of them to relinquish. FOX News is preaching to their choir and Breitbart is fanning their flames, but it is the fight for our nation’s soul and I do hope progressives win. Otherwise I fear we will miss the boat on climate change, destroy the human resource which was the State Dept, expose our youth and workers to environmental injury, avoid the bench research that will create the next industry or breakthrough, and balloon the deficit. All of these costs are in the future, and our current crop of shortsighted incompetent rich assholes will have long since absconded with our pride, unity and $$ leaving a poorer, shattered, sick, divided country in their wake. We deserve better.