phillysailor

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  1. phillysailor

    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Ummm, shame on you LifeBouy. Your post was oddly hypnotic, between the rhythm and the engaging smile... Bad boy!
  2. phillysailor

    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    I'll say this for you, James, you've more stones than I. Putting a life on hold and building the FH was a modern-day exploration into what is possible. The Raccoon can never take away this epic dream, the hard work & the accomplishment. Think of all the polar explorers who didn't make it to the pole, all the Himalayan climbers who turned back at Camp 2. Many of these explorers died in their attempt, or had the lives of their friends, family or rescuers on their conscience for the remainder of their lives. You are showing good judgement and resignation is not defeat unless you never act on a dream again. Most of us appreciate the enormity of your build, of your drive and your tolerating our sniping from the sidelines. Just seems sad you can't find someway to tow her to the Raccoon and hoist sails in front of some snobbish YC along with some hysterically inappropriate nautical etiquette. Just the sort of grand send-off that would really give this saga a solid ending.
  3. phillysailor

    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Never cared for her as CW, but Santa Baby is the sexiest Christmas song EVER
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    The reasons we care... 1. The spectacle. This is a public forum, on which your build has notoriety. Like it or not, people find your build fascinating. Your dreams and ambition are on full display, as is your apparent disregard for the dangers which surround you. It's entertaining. This forum is good fun, like watching a good tragedy/comedy unfold. You know those two masks for the stage, the white&black laughing/crying faces? This is it, in realtime. 2. It's our bays and rivers and ocean too. Your breaking up in the bay or in the ocean will create a bit of an environmental mess, which is avoidable, in our estimation. We resent your willingness to screw Mother nature & your lack of respect for her power. 3. It's educational. By discussing what not to do, how not to build a boat, by examining what forces dictate proper specifications for scantlings, why plywood type matters, how to design rudders and hulls we on this thread have access to a wealth of experience from naval architects, builders and long distance sailors. Even if you refuse to gain from their wisdom, the rest of us would pay money for it. 4. We are invested in your outcome to a limited degree. We pay for the CG who will attempt to rescue you with our taxes, some of us may even be in the SAR business, or in healthcare and it is our chosen livelihood to look after others. We care, because that's what we do, what we pay for. I don't know how to tell you this, HR, but I find you fascinating. Ambition, hubris, skill, incompetence, perseverance, arrogance, fearlessness... you are a study in contrasts. You have risen to join an elite society by owning a massive catamaran through dint of hard work, but are nevertheless risking your life with a foolish project. I can't say for sure you will go down with the ship if you head beyond the GG, but I wouldn't bet on you making it. Your success or failure is of interest to me, but why should you care what I find interesting? It's your life and those of your family on the line, and your failure might mean their death. That SHOULD be your overwhelming concern.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    I agree that what you say makes sense, except in this... There is an acceptable failure rate for any design. For a laser, you'd like to get 15-20 years out of a rudder, but would you really get that many hours out of a rudder, attached with the same fasteners, to the back of a huge vessel it was expected to turn? The laser rudder might see max loads for brief moments periodically over the hours spent sailing, relieved as soon as the course was corrected and the tiller returned to midline. The rudder on the massive, unwieldy beast would constantly be under max forces... wouldn't this rudder fail much, much sooner?
  6. phillysailor

    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    By 'here' you mean inside the FH, right? You seemed a lot less dumb before you started posting regularly. Now you've gone from dumb to dumberer. Yeah. Lets insult & chase away the subject of the thread. Good plan.
  7. phillysailor

    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Hoodwinked? But I paid good money for this entertainment, dadgummit. Oh... I guess no I didn't, but it is entertaining!
  8. phillysailor

    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    You don't seriously think that this is actually a sailing catamaran do you? No, and this is a big reason why... no accounting for the severe loads that can be anticipated. The other "problem" I haven't heard addressed is the forestay... with a turnbuckle 7 to 9 feet high, setting a jib on hanks seems really dangerous, especially since there is no netting to keep the bowman on board. Working over your head on the bow of a 62 footer with no safety net? Not my idea of safe design for offshore work. Would you want to take that sail down at night? The support for the bowsprit, as I remember, is a cable bent around a stanchion at an angle underneath the forward platform. There is no reason that stanchion remains in column other than it was manufactured that way. With any flex in the rig, this is another point of potential failure. I hope the "hard point" supporting that deflecting strut is worthy of the expected forces, because otherwise it's gonna be like throwing a piston rod. Big hole in the bridgedeck, perhaps with ex-structural elements still attached to rig parts in the water, ripping an even bigger hole. The forward mast, from my limited understanding of forces, is simply being told where to fold. Without outer stays keeping the mast in column, the "X" of stays is simply telling the mast where to crumple. Or am I missing some hidden engineering?
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    12532796432938668809.jpg HR: This photo is an example of something that's been driving me nuts. Do you plan to have a traveler for the mizzen mainsheet? Where would you put it that can actually handle the loads? Just the stress of the mast pumping in a seaway WITHOUT sails likely will pull your porch roof off. Essentially, the backstays are attached to a floating point 7 feet off the deck, one that has no diagonal reinforcement. On any diagonal. Put a mainsheet attachment in the middle of the back of the roof, and I swear to all that is holy it will pull up and fold forward like a taco with a sail up in anything more than 5kts breeze. Although a traveller might spread the loads, I can't see how the loads imparted by sailing can possibly be handled by your engineering. There is no arch to spread loads, no solidity to handle the loads and no flexibility built into your design that accommodates sudden additional loads (gusts + wave action). Even a shed roof has more engineering than this. Don't you think sailing in 25kts is at least equivalent to the weight of a snowfall? I'm not a hater, I'm not a stay-at-home sailor. I've bought plywood + epoxy for a boat myself but am just getting my shop ready for a build, so you are a BIG one up on me. Hats off. But seriously, how can a plywood awning endure the loads created by a sailing catamaran?
  10. phillysailor

    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Answering a question with a question- is the harbormaster's responsibility to keep persons (primarily) and property (secondarily) safe & in good order (ie unlikely to come to harm in the immediate future) in his harbor? If yes, the it may well be the harbormaster's responsibility to tow a vessel that cannot move any other way, and is certain to cause harm and/or injury where it is. Calling Sea Tow or the like would basically have been an exercise in wanking ... I think that is the root of my concern. If I was the local manager of the SeaTow (or equivalent) operation, and I heard that someone from some level of government was doing for free (paid for by tax dollars) what I depend on for my business, I might be a little upset. I have seen this a few times where government, sometimes for the best of intents, goes ahead and does something that is part of a competitive business marketplace. That is usually very inappropriate. An example, I recall a situation where a coast guard ship took a disabled ship under tow. The ship was not in immediate danger and there was no risk to the crew. But the local salvage company, who rightfully should have done this work, was mad as hell that their work was being done by the government. I think it fair to discuss the roles of government versus private industry in moving boats or ships that are not in danger. Really? Heaven forbid the government should actually do something useful with tax dollars! The CG should refuse to intervene in non-emergent situations and insist that a situation develop into a crisis before offering to lend a hand, and then come down on top of that with heavy handed fines and penalties. Obeying the oldest law of the sea and assisting fellow mariners isn't the purview of the CG and they should leave that sort of Good Samaritan crap to the professionals who are paid to do it. <<Sarcasm off>> Go ahead, sue the f'in CG or Harbormaster (or complain loud enough) & force them to develop a policy and reap the rewards when drifting offshore and a federal vessel refuses to lend assistance. Then you can come back to SA and rail about the inefficiency of the gubmint and why cant they get things done and why your tax dollars are wasted on incompetents.
  11. phillysailor

    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    By tucking the barge away, out of sight of expensive real estate, Hot Rod immediately gains two things: Privacy. No more lookie-loos gawking and asking questions to which he doesn't really have answers. Time. No more pressure to get the eyesore/death-trap out of 'my back yard'. (NIMBY) Not really interested in how to make things better for the Rod. I think he's created enough havoc already, and shouldn't be receiving the support and encouragement of SAers. At this point, I'm more interested in responsible folks keeping access to the waterfront possible, and boat owners who care enough about other mariners and their property to not create a hazard to navigation. If you think I'm being a jerk, what's your opinion going to be when they sink this thing in front of your narrow harbor entrance, ram it into your newish boat at anchor, or tear up a swing bridge, closing it for a few weeks? Insurance settlement won't be an option, and they are unreliable negotiators, to say the least. Don't get in their way; you've been warned, both in writing and by their actions. Used to be amused, but now I'm getting disgusted. My vote just swung to Raccoon, assuming no substantial improvement in the fundamentals.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Don't you need bulkheads in order to create hard points? I'd think anything else, short of multiple tethers, perfectly tightened to various parts of the boat, is gonna tear this "structure" apart. Bizarrely, everyone seems willing to expose the rest of the shipping and recreational traffic up the delta to this wreck-in-waiting. Why, exactly? This evolution has good odds of ending disastrously, and the "best" end result is a poorly funded monstrosity in someone else's back yard, falling apart steadily and (my assumption here) dumping their sewage farther upstream. The leader of this merry band is in jail, under suspicion of assault & battery, no one involved seems to care about proper boat construction or rigging, nor do they take advice. How is any of this improved by taking the show on the road? I think it improves things for folks in Marin Co in term of out of sight, out of mind, but I don't see why SAers should endorse or facilitate the plan.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    So, was the Bayliner the motor vehicle being driven on the suspended license? Does that mean it could be impounded? What are the HRs gonna do now? Trouble cubed. Sucks if this is how the dream ends, but much safer than hoisting sails and escaping the long arm of the law, no matter how dramatic and fulfilling an end that would be to this saga. Too much potential in that plot twist for mayhem affecting others, despite the spectacular appeal of dismasting and rescue on the high seas drama.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Foreign warrant/hold Failure to appear By this, I assume foreign to the arresting PD, right? Not like foreign country. Do we have more of the "hole picture" now? Interesting. Truth may yet be stranger than fiction. Guy, does this mean your romantic interlude and business venture plans are dashed? Desolé, mon frére.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Assuming it's a puppet, it's more for all of our amusement than everyone's expense. It's showing our naiveté loud and clear, our base judgements of other folks, and our willingness to be manipulated! It's priceless, to be honest. If HR is actually reading this, and pissed off at being represented this way, he is fully welcome to join and get the word out. Or, he can continue to take the high road and just monitor us online imbeciles. If this is him, then he can either leave us in the dark, or take action that proves it is verifiably him. Post, "look for the pirate flag tomorrow at dawn," and take a picture of himself giving us the finger from the deck. We'd be convinced. He could also do this if he "approves of the message" and is enjoying the show remotely, while not actually doing the posting. This is the anarchy we dig... hit count and post#'s prove it! No victims in sight, unless the cops get involved needlessly. Let's back off from Mr Rod and leave him be. He obviously wants none of our involvement. Lets just watch things unfold without meddling. On with the show!
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    This just got so much more interesting than preschool!! Go the Guy, remember to wear cologne. Or just wear an air freshener as a necklace! BTW, remark on the lovely "morfodite" (aka Brigantine) rig
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    There is another basic something that is also missing, and that is "Sailing." Anarchy, we seem to have in spades. But, this hasn't evolved to the level of CA yet, just AA. No, not that one, but "Anchoring Anarchy." Just hope we don't have main shipping channel anarchy, or CGA. And recently, we looked like we were going strong with "Sons of Anarchy", what with the Harleysaki and guns. I'd love to see some Sailing Anarchy. Really! Just hope HR and family don't then have a bath WITHOUT an EPIRB.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Whoops, had meant to leave comment... Coquina; caveat emptor, baby. All these guys are selling is their dream. No fraud at all because they aren't promising a thing in return! If you like their style, go ahead and give. If not, hold onto your wallet. HR&co have let loose the mooring lines and are living aboard. Can't think how they haven't fulfilled their part of the bargain.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Ummm, enough with the threats and stuff. That's preschool, as you said. The diagonal pole, plz?
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    HR'FH: I'm curious how the diagonal pole between the masts is to be used. Can it support cargo, or lift a dinghy on deck? Or is it a whisker pole, used to hold out a sail when going downwind?
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Which really begs the question... why are you posting, if not for your own entertainment? (BTW, like the "hole" reference... i.e., the hole we all throw money into.)
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    HR'FH By the way, if folks on this site piss you off, and you don't want to hear from them, use the pulldown next to your login id up top to the right. You can "ignore" anyone you like. Otherwise, HTFU, because this is SA and not everyone is a friend. That's FB.
  23. phillysailor

    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    HR'FH : In case of the worst possibility, flooding, you will rapidly become reliant on reserve buoyancy. In other words, if there is a hull breach of even a small size, whether due to seams letting go or damage, can your boat float long enough for rescue to be probable? FYI, a 2 inch hole 1 foot below the waterline floods the boat at 80gallons per minute. Each gallon weighs 8lbs, so that's subtracting 640lbs each minute from your reserve buoyancy. A 3 inch hole increases the flow rate to 180gpm. That hole will sink the boat, even at anchor, within 30 minutes, especially since the flow increases as the boat sinks. First that hull will be sucked underwater, then the stresses across the bridgedeck will tear apart the FH. Imagine how deadly this scenario would be out beyond the Golden Gate. In waves. At night. The water is very, very cold. At that point, you'd want all the reserve buoyancy possible. Consider watertight compartments, or even just a reinforced shelf or box attached to the interior of your vessel filled with any sort of sealed containers... exercise balls from 5 and Below, hundreds of plastic milk jugs, etc. Consider it cheap insurance that if the worst happens, you may have time to effect repairs or call for help. They take up a lot of space, but you've plenty of it to spare for such a crucial design element. The lower in the hull these compartments are, the less the boat will sink before the reserve buoyancy will halt the further ingress of water. Also, consider creating an emergency patch kit. Have everything necessary to effect a repair including epoxy and stuffing and such (even underwater) in a single bag so that you can grab and go. The members of this site could quickly come up with excellent suggestions for what to include. Finally, get good drysuits, PFDs, handheld VHFs, flares, personal locator beacons (PLBs) or EPIRBS if you plan to go offshore. Wear them whenever on deck, and have them handy at all times in case of emergency. And, IMHO, you should never set the jib off the bowsprit while at sea. You can't douse it without an enormous risk of falling overboard.
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    never fuckin' mind

    If the milk turns sour, I ain't the kind of pussy to drink it! There's no money, there's no weed. It's all been replaced with a pile of corpses!