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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Yes of course no one wishes ill on anyone. But when people set out to pervert the system for their benefit, that is another thing. He is not disabled. His injuries are healed. Disabilities do not heal. They leave your body fucked up for ever. Injuries heal and can be mitigated, Disabilities cannot. He has 2 good arms and 2 good legs with working feet and hands. Nothing is wrong with him except his ego. He can walk without a cane but Betsy told him to never tell anyone you do not need it. Did you know he does not even qualify for a handicap parking placard? Go figure that. Pretty fucked up by my standards.Maybe he should move to Cali, everyone is disabled out here. Did you not read I also said it is embarrassing?
  2. Nobody would wish for what happened to Dee, but this is embarrassing.
  3. If you were genuinely concerned about her, you would have asked a month ago. As stated in this thread and numerous other ones, she lost her leg, damaged the other one, and is now in recovery. I'd tell you more, but everyone, especially the injured family, is on strict silence, most likely because (as I predicted just after the incident), there was already a big cash settlement from Dona B. All is well then. Just toss a few coppers at the peasants, and your boy goes back to being a hero. They can put this unpleasant distraction behind them.
  4. http://competitor.cycracetomackinac.com/results-overall.cfm These results prove the world'sbest offshore sailors are in the Beneteau 40.7 fleet.
  5. Hey, totally grant that "the choppa incident" was totally stupid and wrong, but really now.
  6. That sentence. My nominee for 2015 "Most Preposterous Statement Award" .
  7. Are we playing higher-lower? LOWER! You clearly don't give a fuck what speed they were doing, so why do you care? Tbh, it isn't material to me, either, because whatever it was was fast enough to nearly kill someone and was TOO fast. Even if it was only 15kts.
  8. I went back and revised and came up with 26-33 kts. The AIS said 24.2 but unknown location.
  9. What position do you sail on SD2? That is the only explanation for why you are such a cunt. At least a cunt is useful.Then clearly you are not a cunt.
  10. That was a super quick estimate and I already admitted that. But there is no way in hell that boat was doing less than 20. None. Not only would the video need to be lying, all reports about the boat's performance would need to be exaggerated. In that breeze, powered up with full main and solent, in flat water, with several boatlengths of runway, how would it possibly be doing LESS than 20kts? Fucking sea anchors?
  11. And, like always, the best thing everybody can do is to just shut up and don't talk about it. You really need a sarcasm font to go with that post. Do you remember a few years ago when some idiot took a photo of the swimmer Michael Phelps smoking a bong at a party?... What kind of loser would take a photo of that and spread it around the web?... The same kind of losers that would talk about who ended up in jail after a few beers at the end of the Volvo. Michael Phelps lost all his sponsors and almost quit swimming after that... Reputations are important in professional sports and negative stories and rumours floating around the web can do a lot of damage... Believe me, I know... Grow up and talk about important things. That's BS! there is a vast difference between someone smoking a bong at a private party and a couple of drunk sailors kicking the shit out of a security guard at at s bar and then fighting with police. Sorry, but if you're going to be stupid enough to get in a bar fight that lands you in jail, don't be shocked when it gets talked about. You don't know that is what happened.
  12. FJ- Very true that mine was a quick estimate. So if you are saying you measured how many seconds it took the entire ama to travel that distance, that is fair, because you are measuring the most distance and time, so there are less measurement errors. but it doesn't sound like you did that? The telefoto lens actually helps. It is far enough away that the angle doesn't change much. You have to be aware that unless SD2 is travelling exactly perpendicular (actually tangent) to the telefoto position, the time increases against a background measuring point (unless you know for sure the measuring points are along the path of travel exactly). This will make it seem the boat is slower. I tried slowing the video as well, and the slowest I could come up with is 2.8 seconds on the low end and 2.2 on the higher end. This gives a velocity between 26 and 33kts. This speed range is entirely realistic for this boat which has had several boatlengths to romp, is powered up, accelerating, and has target average offshore speeds of 24-25kts. Average! I had heard speeds of over 24, not sure there is any indication it was slowed down any how. Actually, evidence like this video, with supporting info can give better velocity estimates than the GPS. I do similar stuff for a living and have a spreadsheet with all the calculations/trig/etc. needed, but this is all back of envelope.
  13. I just realized it is fairly easy to approximate Spindrift2's speed from the video. The ama is 37 meters long, and from the video it takes about two seconds for it to travel one boatlength (the rib is just in front of the ama bow at 1:30 and gets hit by the rudder at 1:32, which is right before the end of the ama). That means it is going just about 18.5meters/second (37meters / 2 seconds). That's 36kts.
  14. Apparently saying "The RIB driver made a mistake" isn't sufficient blame on the guy whose wife was nearly killed and was permanently maimed and disabled for some rabid "power gives way to sail" types. Maybe 5% blame. Is that enough for you?