JL92S

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  1. From a production point of view it is complexity, potential warranty issues and cost to make a system that they’re happy to put on the market. Rudders hung on the transom can also create structural problems, a J88 I race (and a few others in our local fleet) had the transom fall apart which needed a rebuild. Also it sounds strange but some customers see more perceived value if their boat has rudders integral to the hull and not “stuck on the back”. Some of the UK SF3300s have a toe adjustment system and I know that JPK offer it fitted from the factory, it can be a good compromise between reducing drag whilst having the rudders under the boat.
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    Seascape 27

    I wouldn’t say it heeled much at all and in the river was maybe 8-10kts of wind. I was sort of going from other boats I’ve sailed up the same river, mainly J70s and J80s, both heavier boats. It feel like the S24 gives away some upwind performance to a J70 but made up for it reaching and downwind and the fact it has a useable interior. Very pricey though, I’m not sure what a 27 comes out at either. I remember reading on the 24 thread something about foils being fitted to a seascape, the conclusion was the 24 didn’t have the internal structure to support it but the 27 did, now there lies an interesting subject!
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    what is it?

    This one seems to have people stumped
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    Seascape 27

    I had an awesome time sailing a 24, it was the middle of December and freezing cold, the boat was super stable and we just sat at 10kts in around 12kts of wind on a tight reach under main, jib and spinnaker. The boat never lacked power but beating home against the tide up a river we found it a challenge to limit leeway and found we had a bit of lee helm too. Apart from an anchor and the engine, which was stowed along side the keel box, the boat was completely empty but felt like it could have done with some more weight further forwards, I was already at the front of the cockpit and the helm had slid forwards but it felt like it was skidding on top of the water. I agree with you that you need to trim completely differently! For a boat that is the same size as a J70 they are worlds apart
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    Seascape 27

    Ooooo get you the big scary keyboard warrior. I suggest you read my post again that you quoted (#890 in case you lost it). The boat doesn’t go upwind or sail in the light airs that well and rarely sails to its rating because of it. You conveniently posted a video of a boat winning its class and all the footage was reaching and downwind in planing conditions. Of course you can put some rockstar sailors in a Seascape 27 and it will probably beat 2 average sailors in something a little more optimal but 2 like for like crews with 1 crew in a S27 and the other crew in something like a JPK, the JPK in a typical race with a mix of conditions will more than likely win
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    what is it?

    Lift 40 V2?
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    Seascape 27

    Thank you for proving my point
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    Seascape 27

    Let’s not pretend that the old First 21.7, 25.7 and 27.7 rated well either. They suffered from what I shall call “Pogo Syndrome” meaning they’re fun to sail and we all lust after one but they don’t go upwind and they don’t go in light airs meaning they don’t rate
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    Seascape 27

    You can still buy the First 24SE ‘Seascape Edition’ which remains mostly unchanged from the Seascape 27
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    Vendee Globe 2020

    Verdier started his career at Finot Conq, I wonder if he was on the team that designed Seguin’s boat? In that case he can lay a claim on every boat in the top 7
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    Vendee Globe 2020

    I wonder what he means by “tomorrow the imocas will have risers like the America’s cup boats”
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    what is it?

    Gonna take a wild guess and say something design by Ker Yacht Design
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    Help me spec a new rig

    I would seriously consider 2 masthead halyards but with a deflector on the starboard halyard to make it fractional if you need to. The J111 Jitterbug has exactly that so they can fly a fractional A3. I think the idea first came from Minis
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    Help me spec a new rig

    Make sure Selden spec the spreader roots properly, all the J88s blew theirs up!