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  1. The best chance for a UK challenge might be that very strict nationality rules are set in place, as that will give TT the hard choice of trying to find enough Swedes to fill the boat or let Ian Percy pick his best UK mates to sail with him.
  2. What's with the bagging of Russel Coutts?Russ is nobodies bitch but maybe you all are his!... just by the way you guys make such stupid comments-. This Guy is a legend and right now is the best AC helmsman in the sport. his achievement to start new teams to win the Cup, helm the boats and come up with new concepts is unequalled in the history of the event. This guy is a still young and good enough to win a Volvo RTWR and is a qualified engineer. He would have forgotten more than 99.9% of the people on this site will ever know. And the kiwis whom bag him only do so because they do not understand how TNZ (Blake, Sefton and Blackman) shafted him and MANY other kiwi team mates ( daubney, monk, Jones...)and he was forced to go to the Swiss. Coutts is a sailing legend and will always be one. People who bag him on this site will never be remembered in the annuals of history and be forgotten as soon as they hit the coffin. don,t bag winners. When you should be having a go at the rich "Gravey Trainers" whom extract millions from YOUR sport and produce pathetic outcomes for the sport. (IE - DB) Let's face it if this cup had 3 challengers in the old 12 metre concept ( which in current economical conditions could be a possibility) you would all be pissed off a lot more than 3 challengers in theses boats! ( even though the racing is crap) Russ is a true and proven legend. The rest have won nothing yet!!! Of course Coutts is a legend, but he didn't have to go to the Swiss team, and take half his crew with him.And before you keep going further in your mudslinging you can look up who helmed the NZ boat in race 5 in 2000, and while you are at it check if DB/GD has any other merits to their names. So haven't won nothing yet is maybe a bit much? Btw: I'm not a Kiwi. wTF! Barker helmed the last race after Coutts already had the event in the bag And GD,s only win is a whitbread. barkers record is crap too! One laser regatta and a couple of match racing events. Tidy up you act buddy and get the detail right. As for going to the Swiss.., well after Messrs Blake, Sefton, and Blackman asset stripped TNZ and left poor old coutts with nothing coutts sought funding for TNZ from Berterelli. Blake and co then stopped this option and left coutts and 16 others with no option but to go with a team that could be adequately funded and win. Dean Barker was to thick to see the writing on the wall. Raced a boat that was in a team with no money for new masts ( thus why they broke one),wasted time and effort on a Hula, relied on a bucket to keep a boat dry, and in the end failed to defend the cup and has failed to win it back. The facts hurt but Barker, Dalton and co have eaten up millions ( now in their bank accounts)of dollars over nine years and in reality only really care about their retirement fund. Meanwhile Russ and do ( were proven to have made the right call) went on to win and win and win and have never looked back. TNZ failed and all thanks to three guys greed a dumb DB. That's the facts, Just for the record: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Barker_(yachtsman) Summary of Sailing career[edit source | editbeta] 1988: P-Class Tanner Cup (1st), P-Class Tauranga Cup (1st) 1993: Asian Pacific Laser Champs (1st), NZ Matchracing Champs (1st), world Laser champs (10th) 1994: NZ Matchracing champs (1st) 1995: NZ Matchracing champs (1st) 1996: Finn class world ranking (5th), Olympic Finn class trials (5th), Kenwood Cup (3rd) 1997: Steinlager Line 7 Cup (2nd), NZ Matchracing champs (2nd), Sydney-Hobart (9th) 1998: Australia Cup (1st), ACI Cup Croatia (2nd), Swedish Match Cup (3rd), Kenwood Cup (1st) 2001: ISAF World Matchracing champs (1st) 2003: Skipper and helmsman of America's Cup defender Team New Zealand (beaten 0–5 by challenger Alinghi) 2004: Olympic Games, Finn class (13th) 2005: Congressional Cup (1st) 2006: MedCup TP52 circuit (2nd) 2007: Louis Vuitton Cup winner and America's Cup challenger (beaten 2–5 by defender Alinghi) 2009: Louis Vuitton Pacific Series (1st) 2009: Audi MedCup TP52 circuit (1st) 2010: Audi MedCup TP52 circuit (1st) 2010: Louis Vuitton Trophy (3 championship wins) 2011: America's Cup World Series Grant Dalton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Dalton Grant Dalton has raced around the world seven times; the first five as part of the Whitbread Round the World Race later to be called the Volvo Ocean Race. This race has transformed itself during Grant's involvement from a race of adventurers to a grand prix yachting event. Here is a list of his participation 1981-82 Whitbread in Flyer II 1983 Southern Cross Cup 1985 Admiral's Cup 1985-86 Whitbread in Lion New Zealand 1987 Admiral's Cup 1989-90 Whitbread in Fisher & Paykel a Maxi Ketch designed by Farr Yacht Design 1991 Fastnet 1993-94 New Zealand Endeavour 1997-98 Merit Cup - Volvo Ocean 60 2001-02 Amer Sports One - Volvo Ocean 60 designed by German Frers He then skippered and won the The Race a sprint around the world on maxi catamaran Club Med. The race started on 1 January 2001 and finished on 3 March. Club Med broke several records along the way including the distance sailed in 24 hours (656 nautical miles) and the fastest circumnavigation (62 days and 7 hours). --- So who am I to say that these guys hav won nothing??? And I'm sure your record "Mr Americas Cup" is much better than this "crap".
  3. What's with the bagging of Russel Coutts?Russ is nobodies bitch but maybe you all are his!... just by the way you guys make such stupid comments-. This Guy is a legend and right now is the best AC helmsman in the sport. his achievement to start new teams to win the Cup, helm the boats and come up with new concepts is unequalled in the history of the event. This guy is a still young and good enough to win a Volvo RTWR and is a qualified engineer. He would have forgotten more than 99.9% of the people on this site will ever know. And the kiwis whom bag him only do so because they do not understand how TNZ (Blake, Sefton and Blackman) shafted him and MANY other kiwi team mates ( daubney, monk, Jones...)and he was forced to go to the Swiss. Coutts is a sailing legend and will always be one. People who bag him on this site will never be remembered in the annuals of history and be forgotten as soon as they hit the coffin. don,t bag winners. When you should be having a go at the rich "Gravey Trainers" whom extract millions from YOUR sport and produce pathetic outcomes for the sport. (IE - DB) Let's face it if this cup had 3 challengers in the old 12 metre concept ( which in current economical conditions could be a possibility) you would all be pissed off a lot more than 3 challengers in theses boats! ( even though the racing is crap) Russ is a true and proven legend. The rest have won nothing yet!!! Of course Coutts is a legend, but he didn't have to go to the Swiss team, and take half his crew with him. And before you keep going further in your mudslinging you can look up who helmed the NZ boat in race 5 in 2000, and while you are at it check if DB/GD has any other merits to their names. So haven't won nothing yet is maybe a bit much? Btw: I'm not a Kiwi.