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  1. VOR 2017-18

    Does anyone know the legalities involved with the sailor's contracts? Can Brad etc just walk away from both his ST and Akzo's contracts? Once signed these are still valid right?
  2. VOR 2017-18

    Well I guess it's confirmed, ST is back on board. source:
  3. VOR 2017-18

    From another reliable source: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2017/10/20/sponsor-akzonobel-dumpt-schipper-13598855-a1578123 gtran: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrc.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2017%2F10%2F20%2Fsponsor-akzonobel-dumpt-schipper-13598855-a1578123 The initial contract with Tienpont's company stated that it would be responsible for bringing in additional sponsors but failed to do so for unknown reasons. Akzo hired a British PR firm and placed a French business leader among Tienpont's management team adding to frustrations on both sides. Today's articles do all suggest ST bit of more than he could chew even though legally he might be in the right.
  4. VOR 2017-18

    Source is the Dutch national news agency which is very reliable. https://nos.nl/artikel/2199026-tienpont-wint-arbitragezaak-en-bespreekt-rentree-in-ocean-race.html Another article from today: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnos.nl%2Fartikel%2F2198977-niemand-wint-in-de-zaak-tienpont-vs-akzonobel.html&edit-text= Also, according to the website of the arbitration institute that ruled in favor of Tienpont all rulings from them are binding. That is an interesting little detail since theoretically he should be reinstated as skipper.
  5. VOR 2017-18

    There was a hurricane near there just a few days ago, or is that not extreme enough for you?
  6. VOR 2017-18

    New update from Clubracer: (gtrans is pretty accurate) https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.clubracer.be%2F2017%2F10%2F17%2Fakzonobel-orkestreerde-verdeeldheid-binnen-zeilteam-simeon-tienpont
  7. VOR 2017-18

    Both skipper and navigator must be Yacht Master certified, question is whether Brad holds that certification.
  8. VOR 2017-18

    Please post something relevant to the topic instead of this unreadable drivel.
  9. VOR 2017-18

    Here's at least one whole side of the story, unsurprisingly it's about money: https://www.clubracer.eu/2017/10/16/simeon-tienpont-akzonobel-neglected-its-sponsor-obligatios-result-i-could-not-pay
  10. VOR 2017-18

    Would potential skippers really be that enthusiastic about getting the skipper job knowing how much drama is in the team right now? I don't think they will be standing in line unless they were hugely compensated.
  11. VOR 2017-18

    According to this article Tienpont is now accusing AkzoNobel of breach of contract. https://sportnieuws.nl/overig/zeilen/schipper-tienpont-slaat-terug-akzonobel-pleegt-zelf-contractbreuk/ In short: He thinks that AkzoNobel wants to cut him from the team because he spent too much money but says he has been transparent every step of the way. Also that this whole business is very damaging for his reputation.
  12. Unless they are designing a scaled down version of the old AC90s I doubt it will be much different from a wide TP52/VOR70-ish yacht.
  13. So they decided to use VOR70s for the AC? With the required specs I don't see how it will look much different from this:
  14. Unless it will be a large moth-ish mono I don't see how that would work, anything that won't be able to do foiling tacks and/or gybes will be a failure IMHO. Foiling assisted mono's would also be dangerous with that protruding foil. Reading this quote I get the impression that LR never really considered multihulls to be "proper" sail boats:
  15. Team Alinghi

    But does it come with a helipad? Must be nice to have a helicopter as a dingy: