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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Argghh. When I saw the title of this thread, I thought "Please, don't let it be Hall" Every one I have ever seen up close has been beautifully built and finished.
  2. Most comparable boat is/was J/46, introduced a little later and not raced as intensively. Believe that may be near identical hull form so all the wholesome virtues of the J/44 would apply, with some cruising niceties added. I'd happily race one to Bermuda, though you would obviously forego the class camaraderie that was a big part of the 44's appeal. But if you are in Europe, you are foregoing that anyway. Something of a rare beast. X Yachts have gone through pretty fast evolution just in the last ten years. A new one will be expensive and the XP 44's are bringing home the (distance) bacon in the USA. It may be that they are just attracting squared away teams. And this year's Bermuda Race was an anomaly. But earlier X Yachts line up much closer in price to what a J/44 likely goes for, and their sailing characteristics (sym spin, etc) are similar as well. Check out an X41, I have raced against a couple of these and they always seemed to contend in a broad range of conditions. X41 may be the last of the "traditional" X Yachts before they went sprit/updated styling. Should be findable in Europe. Here are about 80+ options in your neighborhood: http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/cache/searchResults.jsp?searchtype=advancedsearch&Ntk=boatsEN&type=(Sail)&hmid=0&sm=3&enid=0&toYear=2005&cit=true&toLength=48&currencyid=100&luom=126&boatsAddedSelected=-1&fromLength=39&ftid=0&man=x%20yachts&slim=quick&is=false&rid=119&No=10 IMX 45 was a big, successful bruiser produced in roughly the same time frame as the J/44. I don't know much about the Swan 45 other than its moment of glory was really brief for a boat that seemed to have a lot going for it. All the guys I know involved with X Yachts liked them
  3. Cooler waters up the track and then shear take their toll. If it gets back into the Bahamas and has some time to reorganize the intensity models may change. Remembers that while the greatest forces in nature...hurricane are a pretty fragile system and wind shear and cooler waters do them in pretty quickly. Any sense of probable impact on Savannah/Hilton Head/Beaufort SC area? Haven't looked at radar yet but seems like direct eyewall hit likely. That part of the Lowcountry has been lucky for some time and there has been a local credo that due to concave shape of the shoreline "hurricanes don't hit here" but boy, this system looks like the exception to the rule. Thanks as always
  4. Anybody know if the PFD is available? Looks like more of a "game changer" than the FWG, which is unique mainly for being "milspec GoreTex." Nice certainly but as said above, the Musto and H/L gear with their Ocean and other varieties of GoreTex work great. The PFD as portrayed by EP seems like a step up from the SpinLock which itself is better than (my) conventional Mustang
  5. Look, hard to argue against your overall point or its components. But somebody is "wrong," all principles of self reliance aside. If the Volvo vets are correct that the weather conditions are boat (and man) breakers, the average Joe's who started have made a serious mistake, though one that's absolutely "within their rights." Conversely, if the average Joe's judgment is vindicated, those that opted out made the reciprocal "mistake." My pals are blasting along now at 10+ so something wind/current is happening
  6. boy... couple of boats I am following are 480+ dtf, going about two knots. I've done that twice myself and its more nerve wracking than the nighttime Gulf Stream hose down ride. Never had good luck with Commanders
  7. Saw "Spectre" lined up in Block Island Race this past weekend... hadn't seen one on LIS before. I'd guess well suited to the typical angles of a BI or Vineyard Race, though checked results and saw she retired which must have been for mechanical reasons (ie, conditions benign). I don't know what Spectre was called in her previous life/lives.
  8. I think the focus should be on the suitability of the boat rather than the experience of the sailor, in this instance. He's got more experience (having crewed two) than I did on my first lap down, though I was crewing. I do agree that there is a self-promotional, passive aggressive "feel" to the whole "public letter" gambit. Despite all the polite follow up. And totally agree that the real competition available in the Annapolis option way outweighs any "Tom Day nostalgia trip" in terms of pre 1-2 preparation.
  9. Benj tried his best to make HPR work. It failed. He sold the boat. Not complicated. Interesting. What's also interesting to me is the end of the long standing and successful Melges-R/P collaboration.... did "Fed" pick/insist on Botin, or did Melges drive that decision? Sort of the nail, or a nail in the R/P coffin in terms of high profile raceboat projects. I guess this isn't news, but boy, I had occasion to go to the Farr site the other day and their self published list of recently launched designs was shockingly short. How the mighty have fallen.
  10. Immaculately prepped like every boat that has passed through the "kinda-back to being an X Yachter" fleet...
  11. Anybody take a peek at the Dragonfly 25 tri? Menu (of new boats) otherwise pretty bland this year... stretched out Alerion, nice but bland Dufours, an expensive Grand Soleil (as if there's any other kind). Not exactly the Farr 280/C&C 30 showdown from last year
  12. I'm glad that custom boats are being designed and made. The imagination and craftsmanship are incredible. But it looks like a big tan box that a nice boat might come in.
  13. Bring money
  14. Do you regret being an a-hole?
  15. Absolutely right, and they (RP) have never really recovered.... the spot they once held now occupied by Botin or the like.