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  1. ~HHN92~

    Memory Lane

    SUI 100 was there with it at one point, I think.
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    Memory Lane

    Say Hi to the gang for me, the guys in the video production truck were cool also, allowed me to watch and checked to make sure I could see everything good.
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    Memory Lane

    Renn, wave tomorrow when the camera is on you, also check with Andi. Met him in Miami along with Dan Nixon, both cool guys. Dan will enjoy seeing someone from SA on-scene for the races. (if you do not know those guys already) edit: will you be on the water?
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    Memory Lane

    VLC, I'll be jealously watching this week...
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    Port Tacking the Feet.

    When so many are doing the starboard tack, committee boat automatic start the port tack can work wonders. In a more competitive fleet, not so much. Someone will take you out.
  6. That may have been later, she actually showed-up in LeHarve in gray primer! They painted her black there and touched-up her copper bottom. In the new book I read she was basically prepped like a modern race boat. I think also with her late finish from the yard they had to get across the Atlantic and worry about the rest once there.
  7. I finished the book last night, it is an interesting read if you are in to history, especially if you have an interest in the America and the story of its lifespan. The book ends with its purchase by General Benjamin Butler, so the remainder of the story is left to other sources. Once it was known to be in the service of the Confederacy the Union command, all the way up to Lincoln at one point, had an interest in getting her and then using her speed in the blockade of Charleston. Quite a bit of effort was put in to not creating any damage in the process of raising the America from being scuttled and to restore her to service. She was involved in quite a number of actions in the several years of her service, but was moved up north and finished the war around New York and Newport. In the inaugural America's Cup race of 1870 she was under the command of a Navy officer but steered by the son of Dick Brown, who drove her originally back in 1851. Again, the writing is a bit odd at times but the book does fill-in quite a few gaps in her history, a worthwhile read in my opinion.
  8. Once again, so that you can remember where this all started...167 years ago. "....(George) Schuyler had a letter from England whch suggested that inasmuch as New York was famous for its pilot boats, a sample craft should be sent abroad in connection with the first World's Fair, England's Crystal Palace exhibition of 1851. And why not? Schuyler, John Stevens, and Stevens' brother Edwin formed a syndicate with three other NYYC members: Col. James A. Hamilton, J. Beckman Finley, and Hamilton Wilkes, one of the clubs founding fathers. All agreed that a New York pilot boat would be the perfect instrument for American representation in England. New York pilot boats - 80-100 foot long - had a world wide reutation for speed. And speed was necessary for their line of work.....Since the first pilot aboard got the job, competition was fierce and there was pressure on designers to build more and more speed into the boats. George Steers designed the fastest ones...... THe Earl of Wilton, Commodore of the Royal Yacht Squadron wrote to Stevens, whom he had never met, on February 28, 1851:......an invitation on the part of myself and the members of the RYS to become visitors at the clubhouse at Cowes during your stay in England. (Stevens replied, in part) Should she [the yacht] answer the sanguine expectations of her builder, we propose to avail ourselves to the sound thrashing we are likely to get by venturing our longshore craft on your rough waters. The America's length was 101' 9". On the waterline she was 90' 3" (hmmmmm, sound familiar?) She drew 11'. Her rig carried 5263 Square feet of sail. It was a simple one: Mainsail, foresail, and jib. ...from a Stevens talk afterword: the news spread like lightning that the Yankee clipper had arrived and the Lavrock had gone down to show her the way up. The yachts and vessels in the harbor, the wharves, and the windows of the houses were filled with thousands of spectators, watching with eager eyes the eventful trial they say we could not escape; for the Lavrock stuck to us, sometimes lying to, and sometimes tacking around us, evidently showing she had no intentions of quitting us...... We were loaded with extra sails, with beef and pork and bread for an East India voyage and were some four or five inches low in the water. We got our sails up with heavy heart- the wind had increased to a five or six knot breeze - and after waiting until we were ashamed to wait longer, we let her go about to hundred yards ahead, and then started in her wake. During the first five minutes there was not a sound save the beating of our anxious hearts, as she strove to overcome the Englishman, Captain Brown crouched in his cockpit; his hand on the tiller, his eyes on the Lavrock........That morning the America's crew soon realized they had going vessel under them. The invading schooner sailed right up to windward of the Englishman and the brush was over. Afterwords, when the yacht returned to Cowes, the Lavrock crew talked. Within a few days the legend had grown concerning the America's speed.......but they wanted no part of a race with her...... The sumer plans however, called for a race around the Isle of Wight on August 22, for yachts of all nations and the prize was to be the Royal Yacht Squadron Cup, which had cost 100 guineas. Continuing their hospitality to the visitors, the squadrons officials invited Stevens to sail his yacht. After three weeks of inactivity, the Commodore accepted. The conditions of the race were simple. It was to be a free for all, sailed without time allowance, and the first yacht to finish would take the Cup. From a prestige standpoint it was to be all the British yachts against the American. The course of fifty miles was highly complex, going clockwise around the island, from Cowes on the north side, thence south to St. Catherine's Point, finishing in the Solent....... The London Times said of the course: "This course....is notoriously one of the most unfair to strangers that can be selected, and, indeed, does not appear a good race ground so , inasmuch as the current and tides render local knowledge of more value than swift sailing and nautical skill".....It was the custom in those days to start the races at anchor, with the yachts lined up in rows. On the morning of August 22 there were two rows.......seventeen British schooners and cutters ranging in size from 47 to 393 tons, plus the 270 ton America, which was the fifth largest in the fleet. The wind was lght and and came from the west, whch meant the yachts would be sailing downwind at the outset. The prepatory gun, five minutes before the start, as fired at 9:55 am, and after that the crews could hoist sails. The America ran into trouble right here. With sails up, the boat wanted to take off, but the anchor could not be pulled until the second gun went off. The schooner over-ran her anchor again and again, turning and twisting on the rode. To get the anchor up, the sails had to be dropped. Meanwhile, the starting signal had sounded and all the fleet was under way. The America was last........ In a talk in 1877, Henry Steers, George's nephew, recalled: "by the time we got t the Nab, we had walked through the whole fleet except for four, Beatrice, Aurora, Volante, and Arrow. We were running wing and wing and these boats would steer close together, so that when we tried to get through them we could not without fouling and we had to keep cutting and sheering about, very often being near jibing. It was the opinion of this eyewitness that the four British yachts were sailed in collusion, which was against the spirit of a free-for-all race............ "Ratsey and some others firmed their talk into a proposition and John Stevens was willing to listen. The English wanted 90 days to build a boat. The would race for a $2500 wager. Stevens did not think the prize was in porportion to the required three month wait and, speaking like a 20th century Texan, proposed that the stakes be $125,000. Ratsey and his contemporaries backed-off. There were no further racing possibilities for the vessel, but there was a buyer.Stevens sold the America to an Englishman, Sir John de Blaquiere, for $25,000. At that price the syndicate members got back their original investment and their expenses too.........
  9. It was an old One Tonner like RKoch stated, both deep and K/CB versions were built after the design was borrowed, along with wide and narrow coach roofs. I do not know who did the alterations for the K/CB model. There is one now racing out of St. Pete, one thing to remember is it will have runners on it, not sure if the C&C does, might be something to consider depending on your crew and experience. Looking at the 2018 DIYC Commodore's Cup results it is rated 96, so I am thinking it is a deep draft model. It was 7th out of 9 boats with a best score of 5th. It is an old IOR boat so it is going to sail like one, good upwind but not so much reaching like a lot of races around the area. The guys I drive for used to have one, liked it somewhat but switched to the J35 when that option came available. What is your budget? There may be a couple of better options for Tampa Bay and coastal gulf racing. edit: I think the CB is a cable system with a lever towards the forward end of the board. Core, I do not know.
  10. Through 120 pages, quirky writing and wording at times, basically going through the build and race so far. One item of lore refuted, that DeBalquiere cut the masts down after buying her, due to the bases being rotten. Several notations on how he did not touch anything during the first year of owning her, doing lots of cruising and some racing. Several other tidbits in there, including that she arrived quietly in Savannah when she came back in 1861.
  11. I typically hang on to books like this so I can go back and re-read at times, thanks for the offer.
  12. While stumbling around the internet the other day I found this book, which chronicles of the America and specifically the period during the Civil War when she was used by both sides. It was published in 2009 but I had never heard of it, has anyone else seen or read it? I will report back when I have finished if there is no one who has read it.
  13. It is good ol' boy southern lingo, sailed on Kodachrome for the NOODS, had a great time and everybody was really fun to spend the weekend with, hope to return sometime in the future. Dem Bums on the fouling boat need to be run out of town, that was pretty blatant. DaWoody got it right, I am upset also that someone was screwing around with the good guys on Kodachrome. edit: DW probably gets the Dizzy Dean style reference with 'dem bums', its an old school baseball thing from the 60's
  14. Messin' with my friends from Kodachrome, run dem bums outta here.