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  1. US Watercraft receivership ? (Alerion etc)

    Re-read my post, immediately knew it was wrong, those were July numbers only. My bad. Here's the corrected one: 2017 January thru July in the U.S. New Powerboats sold: 173,232 units [production up 3.1% compared to 2016] 2017 January thru July in the U.S. New Sailboats sold: 970 units [production down 37% compared to 2016] It's easy to see why sailboat makers would shift production over to powerboats if they want to make a living.
  2. il mostro attempting chi-mac speed run record

    Hey Blubberboy - Remember when Ellison brought Sayanora in for the Chi Mac and missed the elapsed record by 2 minutes?
  3. il mostro attempting chi-mac speed run record

    Congratulations Il Mostro! (17:39:??) set by Peter Thornton and Chris Thornton record for monohulls 2017. Average 16.36 knots per hour. (18:50:32) set by the late Steve Fossett record finish for multihulls with Stars and Stripes in 1998. Average 15.3 knots per hour. (23:30:24) set by the late Roy Disney record finish for monohulls with Pyewacket in 2002. Average 12.3 knots per hour. Near the Start photo (photographer Tim Devore) roughly 6:30pm Central Time 10/16/2017. Crew: 1. Peter Thornton 2. Justin Slattery 3. Artie Means 4. Deane Tank 5. Greg Fordon 6. Freddie Shanks 7. Brian Torrenson 8. Jack Jennings 9. Chris Higgins 10. Phil Trinter 11. Gary Murino 12. Chris Thornton 13. Mike Rehe 14. Roc Roney Mackinac bridge (www.mackinacbridge.org) at roughly 11:20am Central Time 10/17/2017. Chippewa Hotel Cam
  4. il mostro attempting chi-mac speed run record

    There's lots of speed records out there, transatlantic, around the world, etc. This is setting up one more to the list.
  5. Chicago Area III

    Chicago to east of Racine Lighthouse in 4 hours, currently doing 15.9 knots. Go baby go.
  6. il mostro attempting chi-mac speed run record

    Check the Area III thread. They started about 6pm.
  7. shipping a 16' runabout on trailer

    At a buck a mile, just buy one in San Diego.
  8. US Watercraft goes to Auction!

    Sailboat sales across the U.S. used to be 30,000 to 40,000 units per year. This year I suspect will be under 2,000 units (including Sunfish, Lasers, Optimists, up through super yachts). There aren't enough orders to keep factories open.
  9. From the "WTF" files

    A few years ago I saw the stats on boat thefts. As I recall there were less than 50 sailboats stolen in the U.S. each year. Not even 1 per State.
  10. 8 Bells for George Cuthbertson

    Sailed on C&C33, C&C35, C&C37R, C&C43, and in the article Jim McHugh's C&C53. The 43 (my all time favorite offshore boat) was for close to 15 years, as a friend said, "We put her through everything, stopping on a dime hitting a rock at 7 knots, death rolls, wipe outs, masthead in the water, and she always came up with a smile." I always wanted to get on a C&C61 in a blow. Great boats, great designers, great builders.
  11. Never thought I'd see the day. The earth just shook under my feet. Clean quoted Scuttlebutt! ROTFLMAO.
  12. Declining fleets and memories of the boom years...

    New boat sales in the U.S. in 2017 are up 6% on average in all categories - pontoon, runabouts, kayaks, cruisers, fishing, etc. All except one category - sailboats. New sailboat sales are down 37%.
  13. Hugh Hefner - DTS

    Buddy of mine used to get the printed Playboy magazine flat sheets sent to his factory, and then fold them into a magazine. He never thought to keep a centerfold without creases. Could you imagine what a set of centerfolds without two creases would be worth? My Dad worked for Hef in a TV variety show in 1959 called "Playboys Penthouse." He made two cast parties at the Playboy mansion on North State Parkway (Chicago). I suppose this TV show was where Bob Guccione ripped off part of the name for his magazine.
  14. Names that have been ruined forever

    Mighetto Pod