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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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  1. According to the RO - TasPorts up until the morning of the race indicated that they would hold commercial traffic. On the morning of the race TasPorts indicated that a bulk woodchip carrier would be leaving right on start time ............. pretty sure that's not the organisers fault.
  2. is not going to make it to the start line unfortunately. Handicaps. http://dssinc-results.org/results/2016L2H/2016L2H/series.htm Almost enough boats for divisions with in handicaps. Big fleet for a Tassie race. It appears they have split divisions looking at the categories in the Race Tracker - http://yb.tl/l2h2016 PHS, AMS and IRC each have an overall division, division 1 and division 2. Good on the clubs for giving the sailors what they want.
  3. That's correct mate. It's nothing to do with fish farms. But not necessarily to do with bad decisions being made on the water at the time. A board member of the DSS has asked on social media as to why the SBSC didn't contact Hobart Port Control in the morning to ascertain shipping movements as, he stated the DSS and RYCT do? TasPorts have released the media release as detailed above. Huon Aquaculture (lessees of the ship but not operators of it) have said it was a pilotage exemption exercise whereby the ship had to stick to an approved passage plan. Solvtrans, the Norwegian owners/operators of the ship have made no comment. So, with the information we have here: Now just maybe, for a ship visiting a port, on a pilotage exercise, with a pilot on board flying Code Flag H (as stated by TasPorts), or not on board (as alleged by observers) and restricted in manoeuverability, the skipper is unexpectedly faced with a fleet of sailing dinghies (Who was he to know they were kids? I know that many of them were adults). What does he do? Unexpectedly alter course and change his passage plan? Or assert his rights and responsibilities under the Colregs and authority of the pilotage flag, contact all stations on VHF, sound 5 short blasts and maintain course and speed (stand on)? What would you answer on your coxswain's exam? I have 9 students being examined by AMSA for Cowswains Grade 1 next week. They could be asked the same question. Pirate - I would exercise my responsibility to avoid a collision by making a timely judgement - you sound like you would assert you "right of way" and go for it. I know which position I would rather defend with a coroner.
  4. Internally TASPORTs have a different view by the looks. I wonder what the marine authority will determine (a little more independent) On the Vessels 1st pass through the kids fleet the RO did delay the start - have the safety boats corral the kids away - communicate with the ship - discuss the space being used for the race - and formed an understanding with the skipper of the course - for which the marks were laid (it was the second race of the day). The skipper acknowledged understanding of the communication. The vessel returned 35 minutes later and steamed through the start finish line with the dinghies on the final leg of the race. Seems odd don't you think......... There is a navigation channel under the Tasman bridge for up and down the river marked with leading lights/shapes and associated designated bailout routes. Aside from that the estuary is a shared resource for the enjoyment of the plebs and for the use of commercial vessels to ingress/egress the Port of Hobart. The Collision Regulations keep everyone separated. The vessel did not display a H flag or an all white flag. It did display a H flag on its 3rd entry to Port so wtf. Most Commercial stuff enters and leaves Port with an Easterly bias - this one was heading straight at John Garrow Shoal - a very westerly biased course. The Port due list showed the Vessel due to arrive at 19:00 hrs - this all happened mid afternoon. Your a learned chap Lydia. Do you think the above action by the vessel are consistent with CollReg rules 7 or 8 which really are the common sense rules in open waterways. The dinghies certainly got out of the way - just - the committee boats couldn't pull their 70 metres of chain in time to get out of the way (anchoring is not prohibited where they were). Do you think the actions of the skipper of the vessel were reasonable under the circumstances? Apparently all clubs got a communication re whatever they were up to - SBSC didn't apparently - and it would be interesting if any other club on the river got it. Sandy Bay Sailing Club have conducted races here for 60 years - very rare for something like this to occur - mainly due to all parties acting in a sensible way. Something went wrong on the weekend.
  5. Own goal by the looks of it. Stitch up.
  6. Christ mate - the RYCT wouldn't know those clubs existed. Hahaha - "other boat groups" - who would they be? Bothwell Tuna Club? Campbell Town Jetski Society? Cradle Mountain Radio Controlled Yacht Association? Clearly the real yacht clubs have given them the bird. You'd be hoping the council doesn't put roundabouts on Sandy Bay Road. Very few 'Royal' members will be able to navigate their way out of their burb.
  7. Haven't heard a word from any other Hobart clubs. Looks to me like the 'Royals' we are very important attitude, is alive and well but pretty sure they only represent their own members. I reckon a few of their members who are heavily involved directly or indirectly in Tassie Aquaculture are scratching their heads right now. FFS - the last time a Wedge Island race was held a Tasmanian Sydney Hobart stalwart ended up on the bricks on the NE side of Wedge Island - obviously didn't see it - last Sydney he got cleaned up just after the start while he was trying to port tack the fleet. It takes skill to do that - lucky he hasn't run into Australia - not that easy to spot. Richards mob (and most other Billionaire boats) can't get outa Hobart quick enough after the Sydney Hobart such is the respect they pay Tasmania - so how about you keep your farking million dollar opinions to yourself. Oh and Fisher - the serial failed entrepreneur blowing good old Tony's wealth - I hope he has managed to pay entitlements to his employees from his latest liquidated Tassie venture - he's pulled his head out of his arse for 5 minutes to speak - as you were - nobody cares what you reckon champ - you seem to manage to find plenty of lifestyle discretionary pebbles - how about your employees. Looks to me like the farming organisation is trying to have a mature conversation and the Royals have decided on behalf of their members to give them a rocket regardless. They are the current darlings of the lefty, latte sipping, NIMBY's - bet their members are loving that. Pretty polarised opinions down here - but one thing is for sure - not many give a flying fark about whether the Sydney Hobart boats are in the way of the proposal. The Royals have run their flag up, shot their load and are tugging hard trying to reload. Unexpected and intriguing. Can't wait for the next exciting chapter from the fine Royal Yacht Club of Tasmania.
  8. RYCT Vice-Commodore Tracey Matthews was in the telly interview with Mr Badenach - so obviously the Board was all over it - she was the deckhand on the start boat.