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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Team UK

    Pedantic I know but.... geographically Great Britain is just the big fucker island in the middle of around 200 islands which make up the British Isles. The Isle of Wight is politically part of Great Britain which is essentially England Wales and Scotland. But the Isles of Wight, Lundy, Mersea, Sheppey, Anglesea, Scilly and many others are separate islands and geographically not part of Great Britain. And some islands such as Ireland and Man are not part of the UK
  2. Practice videos

    The top seed should choose BAR.... I think the top seed will be AR and they will be in the LV final. SB and ETNZ could well be closer than is imagined. I suspect the OR technology trickle down to SB makes them a second time round contender. ETNZ have yet to show anything in Bermuda that makes me think they are contenders. I believe that it is improbable that things are being held back. There may be improvements to come for all boats but these must already be in the pipeline and being planned.
  3. Practice videos

    Artemis is mighty impressive.
  4. RRS 20 hail when no Obstruction

    Yellow must give room. If yellow fails to respond she is DSQ under 20.2(. The protest committee has no choice So, yellow must give room and then yellow must then file a rule 2 protest and request redress under rule 62.1(d). She must also request the protest committee consider rule 69.2© I suspect that in reality yellow needs witnesses to pull this one off. Yellow can only gain redress if committee disqualifies red under 2 or 69.2©. What redress yellow gets is governed by 64.2. Don't hold your breath!
  5. Vendee Globe 2016?

    On the vendee live, Alex came across as totally shattered. He has put so much into closing the gap I fear that he has nothing left in the tank. I hope he just gets home safely now. It is still a beast of a boat to navigate through a tricky area. I don't think we can even begin to comprehend the stress that these leading 2 boats have gone through. BP will win barring catastrophe, both sailors are heroes. I want Alex to win, but his only way to win is a BP catastrophe - which I don't want to even contemplate.
  6. Rules Question - P/S at the pin

    Agree that there is a lot of overthinking. Read the facts from the original post. Red took a high risk move by choosing to start on port and also by being early. This was compounded by yellow also being early. This was the moment for Red to bail out. instead they carried on with the same reward on offer (ie a good start) but with much more risk. The comments above suggest there is less risk because yellow is going to be changing course a bit. It only changes the situation for yellow who now has a new obligation. It does not change anything for red. For a long time this looked good (part of the risk / reward thing that experienced sailors know about starting on port!) Red is on port tack and has to keep clear at all times. Yellow is allowed to alter course but must not prevent red keeping clear. Red agrees that it could have tacked but claims it was not obligated too. Rubbish! Red must keep trying to keep clear as it is the keep clear boat. Yellow must not stop her trying to keep clear, but Red cannot give up trying to keep clear and claim it was not obligated too. RED is DSQ. Red stopped trying to keep clear when the responsibility was on yellow to allow red to keep clear. Red was DSQ as soon as it stopped trying to keep clear.
  7. A rule 18 question (Again)

    Gents These are the new rule revisions. Learn them and abide by them. But don't complain about them on the internet! This sounds like a decent revision to me and can quickly be learned by don't tack in the circle at the windward mark... But you already knew that was not a good idea anyway.
  8. d-zero v aero

    Love reading the propaganda from the D-0 love in! I remember by Grandma telling me that "Empty Vessels make the most noise". The Polish say the cow which moos a lot gives little milk look it up... Enjoying the Aero immensely as are the wife and the 10 year old, each with their own rig. It is a little dinghy which is exceptional due to how light it is. In my view that is by far its USP. The experience of a gust hitting changes what you do and how you think about what you are doing. Backing off is a thing of the past and you just drive it hard. The hull is a boat, the rig is standard, but what you have to do is so different if you have a background sailing heavier boats. It is impossible not to come in smiling.