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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

nwslider

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  1. Great info and advice everyone, thank you, exactly what I was looking for!! Any other suggestions for small sport boats, mostly inland/inside the bay, but day trips/races for sure in the Ocean, nothing over 100 miles.
  2. Not in the Gorge, on the Oregon Coast, and yeah during the summer 18 - 30 by noon. What about a Melges 24? Would it be a better option? We want to be able to travel more and do some one design events. I would really like something that is easy to travel/trailer, easier than my keel boat anyway. Lining up for the crane at the port can be tough when the commercial guys are hammering fish, and I'll never get used to seeing my boat swinging in the air 40' above the water, depending on tide.
  3. Looking for experience and advice. I'm looking at a 1999 Melges 32 for sale, was told it was hull #1 converted to a 32 by Melges, 32 mast, inboard removed, 32 bow sprite, and I believe 32 keel. I'm worried about a couple things, I really want to do more one design and traveling but hearing the Melges 32 fleets in the NW US are on the decline, and wanting to hear how easy the boat travels, mainly how easy is it to setup and tear down time and effort wise. I'm assuming I would need a hoist/crane for the mast?!? Also worried about crew size requirements, could be tough to find 7 - 9 crew on a weekly basis, is this still expected for the 32 or was this an artifact of the runners and bow sprite on the 30? Also wondering about wind, my weekly races will have wind averaging 18 - 30 with higher gusts, my crew prefers heavy wind so I know the crew will be fine wondering if I'm going to be happy with this boat in consistently heavier wind. Are parts and sails going to be as easy and ordering for a Melges 32? And finally the really tough question, price? I'm not seeing much history on 30's converted to 32's. I'm seeing like 1 or 2 listings over the last 5-10 years of 35-40K and one for 25K, anyone have any idea what they are actually selling for?