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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Awesome boat with a fascinating history and an interesting list of past owners. I was privileged to do a harbour race on her in Sydney in the early '80s when she was owned by John "Big Bad" Gilliam, Groggos dad. She has been lovingly owned since the mid '80s by Martin Ryan and has been regularly raced and properly maintained through all that time. It would be wonderful to see her racing in Peter Shipways proposed AC50 years event. Here she is on Port Phillip not so long ago:
  2. Who said they have to be the same crews? Blue water offshore is a specialty area of sailing far removed from inshore foiling multi hull racing. Strange brew.
  3. Pommy sailors - Buggering Kiwis since 1769
  4. I like what you're doing there Ed. It makes sense in so many ways to pick up an older boat for less money, pimp it up to whatever standard you require for not too much freight and go out and enjoy sailing again. You get more boat for the bucks that way rather than sinking enough cash to float a small European nation on an elitist hot new design that may be just a tad faster but really does little more for you. Enjoy the fuck out of what you are doing and if you happen to win a race or two along the way then so be it. There's plenty of life in most older boats and plenty of fun to be had sailing them. Go to it!
  5. He's been gone 14 years now and he would have turned 99 this year. Not a celebrity to anyone else but his family. My Dad, just so I could tell him he was right.
  6. My recollection is hazy but that sounds credible...I recall hearing it was Marshall Phillips who got banned, he was the Sweet Caroline owner wasn't he? Not sure how Big schott fitted in - was it renamed Sweet Caroline at some point? I also vaguely recall it may have reverted to Big Schott under a later owner. I guess all these old IOR clunkers are sitting around on moorings and marinas now. Dick the memory cells are rooted but pretty sure Marshall Phillips was the owner when it was named Sweet Caroline. The ban was against three or four owners he sold the boat to, a couple who were doctors hence the new name. The pricks pulled some ballast out of it and got caught on account it was bobing around like a cork. Ah, well I'm happy to stand corrected on that front. Apologies to MP if he's still around and I got that wrong. Well it wasn't Dick or me WDoc.jpg I don't know about Witchdoctor, but the Peterson 42 Big Schott became Sweet Caroline for a time and then back to Big Schott when it went to Brisbane. Last saw it looking very original in Coffs a few years ago. Big Schott in Sydney way back when...
  7. Hugo Kirby and ? ( can't remember his name! ) were the co- owners, Bob Fisher was asked to drive it, I got a call from Fish on the Monday and flew to Japan on Friday! Hugo would remember I'm sure - think I've got his email somewhere....also memorable was one of them throwing up over the back just before the start of race - big night it had been:) Hell of cast of entrants though - Hughie Treharne and other reprobates on SeaPly, John Kolius and many others... Careful there..that would be a Rule 26 infraction. SeaFlyer if you please. Correct - they had to change the name there:) Bit harsh with the Japanese full works teams well in evidence! We were all a bit envious to see their boats taken over by a team of white suited shore crew at the end of each race... Seaply.jpg Seaply / Seaflyer in Melbourne for early 80's JOG Nationals. You can make out the discretely altered sign writing done to comply with the dreaded Rule 26 requirements Oi, LP, where did you find that photo? That's one of mine from deep in my archives!
  8. Long time ago... mid 70s. Melbourne boat has just crossed the finish line knowing they have won the the Melbourne to Hobart that year. Navigator gathers the crew together in the cockpit for a debrief before they tie up on Elizabeth St Pier. "There's going to be Press and TV wanting to talk to us and at some stage we will get to meet State Governor so please, remember to watch your fucking language!"
  9. My favourite knot? This one...
  10. Recycled Recreation is most certainly not a Whiting design. That boat was originally launched here in Melbourne for Barry Bennett of Sandringham Yacht Club as "Wattyl We Do", partly sponsored by Wattyl Paints and she was a particularly bilious bright yellow in her original livery. Her designer was a local, Rod Sullivan, but it was pretty obvious to most that she was remarkably similar in every respect, except performance, to Laurie Davidson's "Waverider". She has had many owners over the years and her lines have been attributed to several different designers when advertised for sale over the journey.
  11. Much later, they took a while to make it to Australia. Mine was #24800
  12. Bikini bridge
  13. ? You in the right thread Don ? Yes. Geelong YC receive $10 million over 4 years. They appear to have, basically "thumbed their noses" to thousands of sailors who have supported them over may years. Judging by the low numbers racing, particularly after the weekend, plenty of sailors thumbed their noses at RGYC too.
  14. Great news for Melbourne: http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/9337_Melbourne-added-to-2017-18-route.html