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  1. Great suggestion, jaysper! A few folks have followed your suggestion and made a second donation. If a few more do that we'll be close to $4K. I haven't tried to work out what that would be as an hourly rate for Jason...
  2. New tribute video to Jason Smith and his MyIslandHomeBDA channel. http://www.cupexperience.com/blog/2017/05/americas-cup-videos/ BIG, BIG thank you to AC TRAGICS GROUP for putting this together! Bravo!
  3. Payments have started hitting the Paypal account! Thanks to all who have already donated!!
  4. ^ Thanks Jason! And thanks, Artemis, for letting me invite Jason.
  5. Donation page for MyIslandHomeBDA with some photos of Jason by Sander van der Borch Your contribution goes to Jason, except for what PayPal skims off. http://www.cupexperi...yislandhomebda/ I'll work on making the page better, but at least now we can make contributions. BTW, if there is a Wordpress jockey out there who can help me with the Stripe payment system, I'd love some help to make some improvements and raise some more money for Jason.
  6. Donation page for MyIslandHomeBDA with some photos of Jason by Sander van der Borch Your contribution goes to Jason, except for what PayPal skims off. http://www.cupexperience.com/myislandhomebda/ I'll work on making the page better, but at least now we can make contributions.
  7. New Caroline Bay Marina at Morgan's Point nearing completion, will open end of March. Provisioning, electrical hookups, water, fuel, pump out. Marina clients have access to Arabella for race viewing with VIP flag. 157' superyacht, up to125 guests for cruises. Sunset cruises, dinners, happy hours on board.
  8. Casting modesty to the wind... Easiest to read AC race calendar is here: http://www.cupexperience.com/americas-cup/ And... who has the toughest round robin schedule? Look at days off, who races twice each day... A Closer Look at the Schedule Does Land Rover BAR have the easiest schedule? Do Oracle Team USA and SoftBank Team Japan have schedules almost as good? Do the Kiwis have a good schedule? Do Artemis Racing and Groupama Team France have the worst schedules? Answers here: http://www.cupexperience.com/blog/2016/10/modified-round-robin-ac-qualifiers-schedule/
  9. As I wrote in Seahorse- fixed TV window, in close stadium sailing , fair racing. Pick any 2.
  10. You didn't mention Rule 18? No, not by name, but upon what did you base your statement: "re mark roundings: I thought AR fouled ETNZ at mark 1, having entered the circle a split second behind - but possibly ETNZ never called it in?" Do you not understand that who enters the zone first is totally irrelevant for determining mark room rights? Yes I was at the venue. Yes I have been in the umpire booth during a practice race (not allowed for "real races"), so I know how the system works. Yes I have talked with the guys who developed LiveLine and with the umpires who use it. Yes one of my suggestions for rewording a rule was adopted and incorporated into the RRS AC. No I am not dependent on ACEA for anything. In fact several of the executives seem to consider me an annoyance. Any other questions? I think dumbing it down is dumb. It's ACEA who do the dumbing down. People in the audience are smart, no need to dumb anything down if you take the time to get your facts straight and explain it clearly. As for the commentators... The ACTV producers rarely give them time to explain things, preferring to run a lot of fluff between races. BUT if you watch the replay for Saturday in Portsmouth you'll see that Ken Read really wanted to figure out and explain what happened at the last gate in Race 1. He came back with the Virtual Eye graphics before the start of R2 and showed the overlaps that gave JPN rights to room and caused SWE to be penalized. Ken understands Rule 18 (no surprise there). Do you?
  11. RRS AC, Rule 18 paraphrased: It does not matter who gets to the zone first. It does not matter if someone needs to tack or gybe. It does not matter who is on port or starboard. All that mattters: Is there an overlap when the first boat gets to the zone? If yes, the inside boat has rights to room. SWE was first to the zone. NZL was overlapped. JPN was overlapped with NZL, therefore overlapped with SWE, therefore JPN had rights on both NZL and SWE. As they drifted inside the zone, SWE did not (was not able to) give JPN room. Tough luck for SWE - they were (correctly) penalized. Explanation of Rule 18 in this video. Weak on camera presence but correct info... http://www.cupexperience.com/blog/2012/4/do-you-understand-this-surprising-rule/ OK good explanation and I guess that's the way the umpires saw it but I don't think JPN was overlapped with NZL when they entered the zone. They just seem to let the inside boats form a conga line and if you have given anyone room then you have to give everyone room. So long as they are consistent then OK, better than faffing about with protests post race. Ah, that's the beauty of LiveLine - no one needs to guess whether there was an overlap - LiveLine shows it to the umps.
  12. RRS AC, Rule 18 paraphrased: It does not matter who gets to the zone first. It does not matter if someone needs to tack or gybe. It does not matter who is on port or starboard. All that mattters: Is there an overlap when the first boat gets to the zone? If yes, the inside boat has rights to room. SWE was first to the zone. NZL was overlapped. JPN was overlapped with NZL, therefore overlapped with SWE, therefore JPN had rights on both NZL and SWE. As they drifted inside the zone, SWE did not (was not able to) give JPN room. Tough luck for SWE - they were (correctly) penalized. Explanation of Rule 18 in this video. Weak on camera presence but correct info... http://www.cupexperience.com/blog/2012/4/do-you-understand-this-surprising-rule/
  13. Rule 18 has nothing to do with who gets to the zone first. Tell us how it really works.
  14. Thanks for the link Xlot. All the details here: http://www.cupexperience.com/blog/2014/8/how-to-win-the-americas-cup/ Winner of ACWS carries 2 points into the round robin. Runner-up gets 1 point. For some reason the AC-Alphabet commentators never mention that the ACWS results will be used as a tie-breaker at the end of the round robin phase. Bonus question: Why is the bonus point for the AC Match -1 for your opponent? Bonus question 2 ... who can explain how a team could go undefeated in the round robin (aka AC Qualifiers) and still lose? Answer here.