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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. That is a very tough design mandate YMT. Everybody to his own I guess. Three freestanding masts versus two - lots of pluses and minuses - wonder where the costs will shake out. Anecdotally, I pulled into Tod Inlet one night about 5 years ago. When I awoke the next morning, I was anchored next to a boat out of home port of Nanaimo that had three free standing masts. It looked pretty good - only one I've ever seen.
  2. Thanks for the update YMT. Look forward to seeing the design.
  3. Thanks for posting Bob. Nonstop circumnavigations are most interesting.
  4. Getting paid is good. The T40 concept is great, especially with the hull designed to suit the rig and technology improvements in manufacturing methods allowing shorter product runs. Could such a boat built in shorter product runs, be competitive with 40' offerings in the broader cruising markets? More expensive stick, less expensive rigging, etc. I know there can't be a definitive answer to that question but orders of magnitude directionally would help?
  5. YMT, have there been any new developments on the T40 design since your blog of August last year?
  6. Any new news on Ragland?
  7. Van de Stadt shows some seperation between the sail and the mast in the section below (might be just schematic), and shape to the back of the mast section that is probably designed to reduce the seperation bubble on the sail. The hydraulic maintains the angle between the (faired) mast and the suction side of the sail which has most of the lift. Has anyone seen any performance figures for this design ..... or is there a good reason why this wouldn't be better than current practices on larger boats with unstayed masts?
  8. Many thanks for the Maxsurf link DDW - I did not know that existed. Armed with some analytic tools, it's time to play amateur NA Looking at the pictures of the rig modifications on Anomaly, your earlier comment re boom in the water is very clear - a beautiful boat.....
  9. DDW, as I am trying to learn on the fly so I can keep up with the discussion, would you have a URL for MSURF? Also,is it correct that the narrow beam of the Spirit 46, reduces the potential maximum righting moment because of the lower displacement and the shorter moment arm (GZ) - a limitng factor in comparing righting moments for S'agapo and Anomoly maybe? Considering the standalone mast design itself, it is basically a cantilever of reducing stiffness along its length (height). Stepped at the keel with the top of the house as lateral support, moving that support higher up the mast should facilitate a lighter mast which would lower the G and improve the righting moment, for the same M ?
  10. No meaning to digress, attached is an interesting commentary by Dashew on Bergstrom and Route 66 from 1994 - 18 years ago!! http://www.yachtroute66.com/D.html
  11. Agreed, the tripod is not attractive and would make moving around the deck difficult ...... but the prize of a fast, light and simple rig is appealing - always a compromise in design. The owners of Route 66 (that also had a Bergstrom tripod) have commented that 200 miles "was a really bad day" - not all rig-related to be sure. YTM, as someone that has designed boats with freestanding rigs what do you think of SemiSalt's idea of incorporating the house top into the "tripod" for a freestanding rig?
  12. So, what would you get if you crossed a free standing rig with a B&R rig? From what research I can find, the B&R tripod moved the maximum bending moment further up the mast, distributed the load at the deck level and facilitated a lighter and narrower mast. As the weight and diameter seems to be a major impediment to the freestanding rig, would a tripod like B&R compensate sufficiently for the extra weight of the freestanding rig? Furthermore, would the B&R rigging setup facilitate control of upper part of the mast?
  13. A thing of beauty. What boat is that?
  14. Not sure exactly, but probably looked like this ....... BTW, I was anchored in Todd Inlet last summer next to a boat (~50'LOA) with home port of Nanaimo, that had three free-standing masts with wishbones - visually quite appealing.
  15. DDW,that is an excellent summary. Anecdotally, I am aware of one boat that was raced with a cat rig and with a sloop rig, by the same crew – that eliminates alot of variables in the comparison. The sloop rig could point 5° higher and sail shape was easier to control. As you point out, these are rig issues rather than whether the mast is stayed or not. Consistent with your comments, the weight issue appeared not to be a major factor.