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  1. Douses on a 105

    When you do a take down, the kite should go down the hatch clew first, foot second, tack third, belly forth and head last. I am not a big fan of take down lines attached to the tack. When you use one, it means the tack goes down the hatch first instead of the clew. You should never ever disconnect any of the lines. I have done foredeck on 105s for over 10 years and my only standing order to the pit/sewer is never disconnect any of the lines. Only bad things can happen. The worst case scenario is a sheet wrapped around the kite. If your sewer crew is not back on the rail within 10 seconds of the head going down the hatch it means they're down there overthinking things. Not good. Another suggestion I would make is pulling some extra starboard/lazy sheet down the hatch. This ensures the lazy sheet is not tight during the next set. If you get to the top mark and the lazy sheet looks tight, just pull some slack out from the windward rail.
  2. "Sailing" v "Yachting"

    I'm not sure why so many of the posts in this thread are concentrating on the boats available for youth sailors. I think the main issue identified in the original article is the there is nothing out there for adult, athletic sailors. The sentence that says "... if you're athletically inclined, you go mountain biking or surfing..." hits the nail on the head. If you're over 25 and you want athletic sailing, US Sailing does nothing for you. The person we should be talking to is Anna Tunnicliffe.
  3. "Sailing" v "Yachting"

    The 6th paragraph is the one that hit home for me. Sit on the rail until 4 and drink for another couple of hours sums up just about every regatta I've ever attended.
  4. Port-Starboard

    God I hope Wild Oats XI gets thrown out. I don't think anyone would argue how bad that was. WOXI is going will go in history for all the wrong reasons. Most people will say this is no way to win any race let alone a big one like this, who cares. Wild Oats broke one of our most basic rules.
  5. That hunting crap has become the de facto response of a port tack boat in the wrong. What you're saying is that a starboard tack boat is no longer allowed to react to lifts or headers or waves or changes in wind speed.
  6. Port-Starboard

    Why the hell should S "give them the cross"? Why can't P just follow the fucking rules? Only shitty sailors don't know port from starboard.
  7. you make the call

    This whole thread is case evidence that our sport is fucked up. P is at fault. S had to alter course. The best sea lawyer wins this one.
  8. This is a great move and the quickest way to get an event like the CC up and running again. When you decide to go with OD production boats, you're able to run the event more frequently and with much less hassle. The CC does not need to be the AC. If you're going to go the OD, production boat route, why not teams of three? IC-37, J/105 and Tartan 10?
  9. Extreme barging

    .... It would seem that a minimum penalty for damaging somebody else's boat is that you sit out until they can race as well. That's what a Corinthian sailor would do anyway along with paying for the damage without question.
  10. Extreme barging

    Ah another situation when little exceptions to a rule are being used as an excuse for not following the basic rule in and of itself. My example: Our sports most basic rules are avoid collisions and assist boats in distress. After these, the big one is "Port/Starboard" We're approaching the finish on starboard, a competitor is on port. While there is still plenty of time for P to gybe away, we're hailing "Starboard". Port just keeps on coming. You guessed it, they gybe late, we have a minor collision. We hail protest. We end up in the room. P starts spewing about "we felt like we were being hunted". I responded, "we felt like we were racing against another boat that had no idea what the rules of our sport are".
  11. Why isn`t it a code a negative 1

    Oh so you're talking about Lawrie Smith? The first time I ever heard of Code 0s was for the 97-98 Whitbread. Lawrie Smith developed 0s for EF before moving to Silk Cut
  12. Which three Asymmetrics?

    When you start getting into REALLY tight reaching with things like a Code 0, there are some additional rigging enhancements you'll need to consider: Bobstay 2:1 tack line Low stretch halyard Low stretch sheets twings Furling
  13. J-105 cruising down the ICW

    Looks like a J/29 to me. I hope nobody hit that mast sticking halfway into the left lane. I see no remnants of any tie down straps holding the boat to the trailer.
  14. caption contest

    Miss November 1973
  15. THIEVES!!! junior Regatta night shoppers

    Classic. I worked as a lifeguard through high school and college. Only time anything was ever fucked with was at a Country Club
  16. J 121

    You have to admit that the J/111 set up is much simpler. The 111 has a break in the hand rail to allow for the hardware to move around.
  17. J 121

    Trust me, that setup has "cracked Plexiglas" written all over it. The last photo shows the inboard inhauler line OVER the vang line. You used the phrase "proper cabin". Maybe there are some boats where these things just don't belong. My problem with these things is that for the average sailor, they're just noise. Your inhauler angle means shit when you sail on a knock for 3 minutes
  18. J 121

    Those inhaulers are so clearly an after thought. That hardware is going to bang around and chip the hell out of everything. The real give away that they're an after the fact add on is the jib sheet rubbing the grap handle.
  19. blooper time!

    ... I could care less what happens to my rating. Best post ever.
  20. blooper time!

    Sea lawyers.... gotta love um. That rule would have to have some cute wording. Something like "no free flying jibs"
  21. phrf handicap J105

    Just remember.... this sword has a double edge.... I hope your PHRF lead mines have all their lead.
  22. phrf handicap J105

    Wow.... you're an even bigger tool than I originally thought
  23. phrf handicap J105

    Dude..... don't shit the bed for the rest of the 105s that are trying to get their PHRF rating to be fair. That sail you describe would never measure in (by your own admission) so don't try passing it off as a class jib. Go ahead and put in a carbon fibre mast while you're at it. Take out the corrector weights too. Sorry that you spent the $$$$... maybe you can make some gear bags out of it.
  24. j120 bobstay solution

    Why do you need a Code 0 on a J/120? ISn't that boat rated to carry an overlapping headsail?