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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. A few years ago we finished the PH-Mac at like 5:00 AM on Monday. Shore course, fast race, and we finished and corrected second in our class. So, feeling pretty good, and the harbor is relatively empty, maybe a quarter of the fleet is in, if that. Mackinac is in a rare state of dead calm. Very few people in the harbor, nobody on the street, and even the Pony is quiet at 5:30 in the morning. Someone was playing some rock playlist kind of quietly on the other side of the harbor, though. Sister Christian came wafting across the docks. I always liked that song about the same as a thousand other songs, but right then it sounded absolutely sublime. Used to think 4 or 5 in the morning would be a horrible time to finish that race. Now I know better - it's the best time. That song always takes me back to that moment which was really the beginning of a pretty perfect day.
  2. Sending the n00b to admin for an ID-ten-T form, or to the bosn's locker for a bosn's punch, are old Navy standbys.
  3. I feel like torpedoing boats that violate the port-starboard rule is a little harsh.
  4. Neat little diagram, but it would be better if it were made more clear or at least consistent who should keep clear of whom. A complete noob wouldn't likely know. In most cases there yellow keeps clear / gives room, but not all.
  5. Well especially if Uranus is crewed by a bunch of Klingons in a fleet of TPs It didnt take long for this thread to go right in the toilet. Sunseeker will be along shortly to tell you everyone in sailing is a knuckle dragger other than his crew and your sophomoric humor is boorish, socially unattractive and uncouth at best Uranus is boorish, socially unattractive, and uncouth at best
  6. Anyone who can't laugh at Uranus jokes needs to re-examine some priorities. Life is less fun if you kill off your inner 12-year-old.
  7. Why not. Its not attached to the mast, Its not a spinnaker pole. Its some other kind of spar which may or may not be legal under class/rating rules and in the case of a rating rule will probably require rerating. A spinnaker pole is a spinnaker pole. To use it, you have to attach it to the mast. It doesn't become a different piece of equipment by attaching it somewhere else, otherwise there'd be no point in the first place to a rule that says you must attach it to the mast.
  8. excellent point. It ceases to be specifically and practically a spinnaker pole and becomes simply a spar. As long as it does not extend beyond your rated JC, it's all good. But for the sake of argument, let's say it is still used as a spinnaker pole. The mast track runs all the way down to the base of the mast. Totally legal. The foreguy is snugged down so the tip of the pole is a low as it can possibly go. Totally legal. So what's the issue? That would probably be OK, but not what the OP said - his idea was to attach it to the deck. I'd think most spinnaker poles aren't long enough anyway to be useful as sprits, if you attach them to the mast. The pulpit would get in the way of your tack and tackline. I don't think anyone would really buy the argument that you've turned your spin pole into something else just by rigging it differently.
  9. Heard just today at club board meeting: "I have one correction to point out in last month's minutes. Jane Doe should be listed under 'new members', not under 'passed away.'"
  10. I really don't think it's even legal to do while racing. 50.2 Spinnaker Poles; Whisker Poles Only one spinnaker pole or whisker pole shall be used at a time except when gybing. When in use, it shall be attached to the foremost mast. Creating some kind of permanent or semi-permanent rigging setup to use your spinnaker pole as a bowsprit doesn't make it not a spinnaker pole.
  11. Speaking as a sometimes bowman on a boat that races with this exact configuration (that is, an asym tacked to a tackline on the deck) it's definitely preferable to run the sheets inside the tack line, not forward of it. Hourglasses are common that way. The sheet likes to tangle in the sail, or the tackline itself.
  12. Innovative tacking technique by the Sled helmsman. Hitch your bowsprit to a convenient attachment point on a competitor and allow their momentum to pull you around. Upside is, it requires a minimum of effort in turning the wheel - all the work done for you! Downside is it's illegal and likely to result in disqualification. Competitor may protest.
  13. OK, if that's your thing, why the fuck are you even talking about going through start lines and around buoys? Sounds like what you want to do is sail across an ocean. I think the rest of us would like you to as well.
  14. But did you respect her in the morning??
  15. Yeah, there's an unwritten rule. It's called don't be a lying dickhead. In other words, Owner B should conduct himself so that if he gets a repair bill and presents it to Owner A, Owner A already knows Owner B is trustworthy and the repair bill is what it should be. And Owner A should conduct himself so that when Owner B goes to discuss, he already knows Owner A will be willing to do what's right. It used to be called being Corinthian, or being a gentleman. These days I think it's called being a sucker. I blame Trump, Obama, Bush, video games, Facebook, millennials, and other things as soon as I think of them. In the absence of any trust, I suggest A simply ask for an itemized invoice, not be a dick about how B could've gotten that done for $100 less if he'd talked to this one buddy he knows, and pay anything related to the collision repair. Sometimes it's the price of having a reputation.