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  1. Eds SC-33 Anarchy 3

    Don't be discouraged. The boat can sail to its rating. Stop sailing it like its a new sports boat. Get rid of the young know it all crew and get some seasoned old old school rock stars aboard. The ones that smoked a lot of weed and could see the wind. Single spreader Telephone Pole and carbon sails aren't going to help shift gears much though. Bill did build a few of them with Double spreader rigs. Also Try Playing some Frank Zappa on the upwind leg
  2. The Bottom line is there is no f cking excuse for this to have happened. I'm a 6 year navy vet QM spent many of night on watch in that body of water and long before GPS and all the toys they have today. The OOD, JOOD need to go back to kindergarden with out there toys. CIC should of tracked that ship several miles out and knew he wasnt going to change course and the Lookouts need Keel Hauled. These guys cant drive across town with out there IPhone. I recently helped a young guy fix his steering on his Gulfstar 50. I fixed the steering then he asked me to help him calibrate his auto pilot. I looked down at his wheel and there was no compass. I said where is your compass? He replied I use my I phone. Needless to say I went off on the Kid and tore him a new asshole. Did your mom drop all you young guys on your head when you where little? Ok guys there's a long distance race and its outlawed GPS and Electronic navigation of any kind. Think you have a chance to stay alive? Have you ever seen a paper chart?
  3. what is it?

    Hopefully its remote control. It looks to f ing cold to sail
  4. Caption Contest: PFD?

    Im Sure Trump can Fix the zipper. He can fix anything.
  5. mondo bondage

    Freight Train Had a Stock Double Spreader Rig
  6. mondo bondage

    So let’s say Hypothetical speaking I own a Ranger 33 that I’ve owned for years. And my job takes me to SD. I want to race in the local PHRF races but knowing my boat is old and can’t be competitive with the Dacron sails I have. So I beg Borrow and Steal and order new carbon sails. Well the new sails when sheeting in hard going to weather pull my deck up 3 inches every time I hit a wave. I still have the Rating of 163 that I’ve had for 30 years but my decks have got soft. So to eliminate the softness I put some carbon stringers at 100 lbs. extra weight to help. I could have cut out that part of the deck and replaced it with Glass at a cost $2000.00 and not had any or very little Weight gain. But money is very tight. My 6th wife is pregnant with my 12th Child and my 16 year old daughter is in a rehab again and rehabs are expensive. So the local PHRF racing is the only escape I have from my Very sad and Complicated life. But Wendy Wiener is already bitching about my Carbon fiber and the Fact the Gary Mull designed my boat and He had some very competitive boats in the 70s Way before Wendy was born. Sounds to me like I should have stayed In Iowa Racing on the lake against the farmers that didn’t care if I used a Carbon Fiber Pitch fork as long as I had a good time. I think Wendy needs to spend more time on the boat and learn to sail better than worrying about what other people buy or do. My hat is off to you for the Santa Cruz 33. Kick Wendy Wieners Ass. I think Wendy would be intimidated By a Venture 25 with a carbon tiller.
  7. Santa Cruz 33

    BillR the Line test is just 2 pieces of spectra or low stretch line tied independently to the mast at the same spot. tape them also so they dont slide then you will need to put a eye on one of your bolts on your chain plates to tie the other end to. tie them each Tight. The Soverel has inner wires and tangs so they just tie it to them and duck tape them in same place so they dont slide down. Then go out sailing and load the boat up going to weather and watch the lines sag. I hate to say it but they are going to sag. The problem with the SC33 is the bulkhead is so far forward like the Soverel. But you have less beam so that could be a plus. Most people dont cruise much on a Soverel and Evelyn 32 so the struts are there for the duration But you have a nice interior so I would have made my struts removable for those party days with family and friends and put them on for a race and let the Chute packers worry about hitting there head. The other thing is the SC is higher in headroom so there is more distants between the step and the partners check for movement there also. I spent a couple of Days going over your boat with a tape measure that almost stuck to my fingers because it was so dam cold. It was good to be back in florida but I wish I would of came back with the Boat. Message me and Ill give you my Phone # Plus if you ever want to sell I want you to have it so you can call me first. And remember Carbon Fiber wasnt invented to make new things good. It was to make Old Things Greater.
  8. Santa Cruz 33

    With todays Sail design and materials out there some of us old farts like myself its so easy to buy new sails and not think about the increased loads they place on a older boat. I meet a younger guy in CT some years back and he just bought a Soverel 33. he was bragging about how stiff and solid the boat was He ask me go sailing with him. I did the Line test between the Chainplates and the mast down below. Needless to say the guy installed 2 compresson tubes the next day. Also a lot of People hate a Veeberth. But they help create Stiffness in the Bow. So a couple of broken wind surfer masts have some use. A stiffened Evelyn 32 sails with 8 onboard and extended E= 13 ft will point and go upwind like bat out of hell and I would lay money on it that the SC33 can also.
  9. Santa Cruz 33

    Ok Muffin you have me crying my eyes out that I didnt buy that red and blue 33 in Mich. What was I thinking. Oh and I love the Rudder? Doesnt look like the ones Ive seen?????
  10. what is it?

    Fugly 64 Right. Has a new Trim sails via onscreen display because you cant see shit from that powerboat bridge. But you will see them Moored in Monaco I bet.
  11. Santa Cruz 33

    Muffin Looks Gorgous. I like it without the stripes on the sides. Did you keep the unique Pin Striping on the Decks? And a little Yellow show thru to say what it was before. After all Its a Chicken Cop 33
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  13. Santa Cruz 33

    Hi I was looking at one in Mich. some 4 years back and was going to buy it but at the time I was married and couldnt get my wife to go along with It. I was looking for something fast, Light but still had potential for light overnight cruising with its 6 ft headroom. There where only 12 or so made so you dont see them for sale much. The boat rates about 102 to 110 PHRF in great lakes and east coast but im not sure in the LA area ? It is very light but had a design a little more for the IOR rating which could help in the LA Chop upwind.. I did alot of research on the boat and even talked to Bill Lee the designer and a couple owners in the Seatle area. I was looking to find a boat comparable to The Evelyn 32,Olson 30 or Soverel 33 in speed but had more cruising comforts or the potential to add a nice interior. If youre are only going to race the boat then Id go with a Evelyn 32. With a few mods like Stiffening,Fairing, Rig, Sails and Meat on the Rail I dont think you could go wrong. Keel is a Fin so kelp shouldnt be a Problem. Now Im divorced and without a boat and everyday I wished I would of bought the boat. There is one more that you might want to look at and its the Olson 34. Great Boat. It was just out of my price range at the time.
  14. Santa Cruz 33

    Hi I was looking at one in Mich. some 4 years back and was going to buy it but at the time I was married and couldnt get my wife to go along with It. I was looking for something fast, Light but still had potential for light overnight cruising with its 6 ft headroom. There where only 12 or so made so you dont see them for sale much. The boat rates about 102 to 110 PHRF in great lakes and east coast but im not sure in the LA area ? It is very light but had a design a little more for the IOR rating which could help in the LA Chop upwind.. I did alot of research on the boat and even talked to Bill Lee the designer and a couple owners in the Seatle area. I was looking to find a boat comparable to The Evelyn 32,Olson 30 or Soverel 33 in speed but had more cruising comforts or the potential to add a nice interior. If youre are only going to race the boat then Id go with a Evelyn 32. With a few mods like Stiffening,Fairing, Rig, Sails and Meat on the Rail I dont think you could go wrong. Keel is a Fin so kelp shouldnt be a Problem. Now Im divorced and without a boat and everyday I wished I would of bought the boat. There is one more that you might want to look at and its the Olson 34. Great Boat. It was just out of my price range at the time.
  15. IOR Mystery boat

    Ok guys this thread is showing my age. If my mind is still working I remember back in 1980 I raced in the Kenwood cup in Honolulu at least I think it was Called the kenwood cup. The reason I remember is I had just left the US Navy after stationed in Pearl Harbor and the Philippines. If I remember correctly there where a couple of boats that where from down under Built in The Philippines. they then went on to the SORC, Admirals Cup and Sardinia Cup. The boat is not a Mark Soverel. I would almost guess its a Ron Holland with that stern and deck. I dont think Frers had the curved in stern at the bottom at that time. The PI was building a lot of boats for AU and NZ even for some from Singapore. Call Ron Holland he has a Website. He will Know whos it is if its not his.