this brings up an interesting point. where is the line between ugly and not? being ugly begins with the visual sense. I think on that much we can agree. also, anyone has the right to think that something may be visually ugly to him or her. but where does the line begin where the function, performance, success or whatever of an object suddenly makes it no longer ugly, or even attractive? for example, I've been seeing the for-sale ad in 48 North for Trekka's sistership for what seems like an eternity with the hidden intent on the sale apparently implying "please buy me based on a connection to detached accomplishments." of course that's an opinion created by my own personal filter and projections, but I think the question is valid, and for me quite interesting
