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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. I think SNLs Amy Poehler summed it up best, "Someone so annoying, so persistant, so shrill, so irritating, so ambitious, so........
  2. You ain't seen nothing yet! Wait until we attack Iran. And crude oil is already at $98 a barrel, and we haven't even done anything yet. Just use your imagination.
  4. The next hundred years will be critical if we attack Iran! We cannot simply bomb them and leave, as the happy war planners in Washington would have us believe. They will definately retaliate. No one knows what Russia and China will do. But I really think Bush/Cheney will go ahead and do it anyway! And crude oil is almost to a hundred dollars a barrel, and we haven't even attacked yet! What will five or ten dollar a gallon gasoline do to our economy, and the cost of food and everything else?
  5. Iraqi Official Gunned Down in Baghdad SINAN SALAHEDDIN November 4, 2007 BAGHDAD (AP) — Two carloads of gunmen ambushed a top aide to Iraq's Finance Ministry on Sunday in Baghdad, killing him and his driver, police said. The two were among 15 people killed or found dead in Iraq. The Finance Ministry had no immediate comment about the attack on Qutaiba Badir al-Din Mohammed, a Sunni adviser to Iraq's finance minister. Violence claimed the lives of 10 Iraqis in Diyala, the troubled province northeast of Baghdad. Police said the victims included an Iraqi soldier, a policeman and an 8-year-old child, all killed separately. The soldier died when gunmen attacked his patrol in Khalis, a mostly Shiite town 50 miles north of the capital, police said. Three other soldiers were wounded in the attack, they said. The child died after seven mortar rounds landed on a residential area in the same town at sunrise, police said. A woman was also wounded by the barrage. And the policeman was killed in a drive-by shooting in nearby Muqdadiyah, 60 miles north of Baghdad, police said. Meanwhile, police said clashes broke out in Buhriz, a suburb of Diyala's provincial capital, Baqouba. Policemen backed by members of the 1920s Revolution Brigades, a Sunni former insurgent group, battled gunmen and seized weapons and ammunition, they said. Four people were killed, including a 1920s member, police said. Later, a civilian was killed by a roadside bomb north of Baqouba, and a severed head was found dumped at a farm nearby, police said. Another body was found floating in a drainage ditch in the Tahrir area, in a southern part of the city, they said. Farther west, a parked car bomb exploded in a commercial area in central Tikrit, killing three people including a 6-year-old boy, police said. :: Article nr. 37869 sent on 05-nov-2007 02:10 ECT We now return you to our regularly scheduled Dogshit Network propaganda. The official voice of the Bushshit White House, where facts never get in the way of a happy story.
  6. 2007 Toll Nears Highest for US in Iraq LAUREN FRAYER November 4, 2007 BAGHDAD (AP) — With just under two months left in the year, 2007 is on course to be the deadliest year on record for American forces in Iraq, despite a recent sharp drop in U.S. deaths. At least 847 American military personnel have died in Iraq so far this year — the second-highest annual toll since the war began in March 2003, according to Associated Press figures. In 2004, the bloodiest year of the war for the U.S. so far, 850 American troops died. Most were killed in large, conventional battles like the campaign to cleanse Fallujah of Sunni militants in November, and U.S. clashes with Shiite militiamen in the sect's holy city of Najaf in August. But the American military in Iraq has increased its exposure this year, reaching 165,000 troops — the highest levels yet. Moreover, the military's decision to send soldiers out of large bases and into Iraqi communities means more troops have seen more "contact with enemy forces" than ever before, said Maj. Winfield Danielson, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad. "It's due to the troop surge, which allowed us to go into areas that were previously safe havens for insurgents," Danielson said. "Having more soldiers, and having them out in the communities, certainly contributes to our casualties." Last spring, U.S. platoons took up positions — often in abandoned houses or in muddy, half-collapsed police stations — in the heart of neighborhoods across Baghdad and nearby communities. The move was part of President Bush's new strategy to drive al-Qaida from the capital. The idea was to fight the "three-block war" — in the words of the Pentagon counterinsurgency manual written in part by America's commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus — by embedding U.S. forces inside Iraqi communities in order to win the trust and, crucially, the aid of residents. It was the first time many residents had seen U.S. troops up close, rather than whizzing by in armored convoys en route to huge bases that house thousands of troops. And it was the first time many U.S. troops went to bed each night outside those fortresses, to the sounds of Iraqi life: gunfire, the roar of helicopters overhead and an occasional explosion. The move has worked, U.S. officials say. Increasingly, the sounds of Baghdad include children playing in the streets. "It's allowed Iraqi civilians to get more comfortable with U.S. forces — increasing the number of tips we get from Iraqi citizens," Danielson said. "That leads us to insurgent leaders and cells, and cleaning those up has led to a decline in violence over the past couple months." Stationing U.S. troops in communities, where they have reduced the level of Iraqi-on-Iraqi violence, also appears to have helped win the trust of the leaders of Shiite and Sunni communities. And that has helped the U.S. persuade those leaders to join the fight against radical groups, especially al-Qaida in Iraq. The U.S. troop increase also put pressure on anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who called a formal cease-fire in August. That, it appears, has slashed the number of mutilated bodies discovered on the banks of the Tigris River and other dump sites each day, the apparent victims of sectarian murders. At least 1,023 Iraqi civilians died in September, but in October, that figure was just 875. On average, 56 Iraqis — civilians and security forces — have died each day in 2007. Twenty were killed or found dead on Sunday, including an aide to the finance minister, who was ambushed in Baghdad. Twelve of the deaths were in volatile Diyala province, including an Iraqi soldier, a policeman and an 8-year-old child, all killed separately. But the same strategy that U.S. military officials say has reduced violence so sharply in recent months is what made 2007 so deadly for American forces. Small patrol bases make attractive targets for insurgents. In April, nine U.S. soldiers were killed and 20 wounded when two suicide truck bombers rammed into their building in the heart of Diyala, northeast of Baghdad. It was the deadliest attack on U.S. troops in Iraq in a year and a half. U.S. troops ventured out on Iraq's roads more frequently in 2007, and insurgents responded by building larger, more powerful and more difficult to detect roadside bombs. On a single day in June, the military announced the deaths of 14 troops, most killed by such explosions. Diyala's provincial capital, Baqouba, was planted with so many hidden explosive devices that some streets were declared off-limits to U.S. military vehicles. :: Article nr. 37866 sent on 05-nov-2007 01:51 ECT www.uruknet.info?p=37866
  7. Ding ding ding, Reality Check Time! Sunday: 83 Iraqis Killed, 53 Wounded Margaret Griffis, Antiwar.com Updated at 1:00 p.m EST, Nov. 4, 2007 At least 83 Iraqis were killed or found dead and another 53 were wounded in the latest violence. Among the incidents was the discovery of a mass grave near Ramadi. Also, no Coalition soldiers were reported killed. Near Ramadi, Iraqi security forces discovered a mass grave containing approximately 40 corpses and dozens of civilians cars believed to have been seized by al-Qaeda connected militants. In Baghdad, four dumped bodies were recovered. Two people were wounded in the Karrada Mariam neighborhood. In Saidiya, gunmen killed two female principals at different area schools. A Finance Ministry adviser and his driver were gunned down in Jamiaa. Also, the Iraqi army with U.S. support captured 12 suspects in the Adhamiya neighborhood; however, the Sunni Association of Muslim Scholars condemned the raid, which occurred at a religious college. Thirteen more suspects were arrested in western Baghdad. A car bomb in Samarra killed four and wounded 11, including policemen. Two suicide bombers wounded a combined 17 people in the Bab Sinjar area, near Mosul. Near Hibhib, three Peshmerga troops were killed and five more were wounded during an attack. A car bomb in Tikrit killed three people and wounded 13 others. A child was among the dead. Also, three bodies, including one belonging to a police lieutenant colonel, were found. Motorcycle-riding gunmen killed a policeman west of Kut yesterday. Also, the wife of a police officer was kidnapped in a separate incident in the city. Police in Garma arrested 30 suspects and discovered three decomposed bodies. A decapitated corpse was recovered in Abbasi. One soldier was killed and three more were wounded in Khalis. A child was killed and a woman was injured during a mortar attack. Also, nine bodies were discovered. In Diyala province, a policeman was killed. One woman was killed and another was injured in Abu Saida Gunmen killed a woman in Seif Saad. A body was found in Baquba. British troops in Basra destroyed a missile launching facility in the al-Shoala area. No casualties were reported. Also, tensions over the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) have now left one dead and four wounded in northeastern Syria during a demonstration. Thousands of Kurds attended a funeral for the dead youth. Kurds populate regions in Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Iran and Armenia. Meanwhile, eight Turkish soldiers held by PKK rebels were released. Compiled by Margaret Griffis :: Article nr. 37877 sent on 05-nov-2007 04:06 ECT
  8. And the troops would come from where, Sol? Ever consider the reaction from the rest of the middle east, if we invaded Pakistan? Ahem. Doesn't Pakistan have nucs? Last I heard they did.
  9. Well there ya go. Couldn't put it any plainer than that. Surely we can't leave now. Bhouwahahahahaha Another flag waving bonehead swallowed this Bush/CIA created propaganda. How convenient of Al Quaidas "Number Two Man" to state publicly that their goal is to take over Iraq as a base. Why are we always treated to statements from the "Number Two Man" now? Perhaps any statements from O Sammy would remind the american people, that Bush never caught him. Perhaps the public has become so skeptical of statements from O Sammy, that the Bushies had to come up with someone else to scare us. Perhaps the public and the politicians have become so fed up with Bushs war, that a direct statement from Al Quaida, that "want to take over Iraq as a base", was neccessary to reinvigorate the base. What a steaming pile of shit. The worst part of this whole mess, is that a few mindless lemmings still buy into it. Heh heh heh. Don't throw away that duct tape and plastic!
  10. The original post in this thread is a steaming pile of shit and propaganda, straight from the Pentagon Office of Disinformation! Bachmann: Surge needs time By Lawrence Schumacher, lschumacher@stcloudtimes.com Published: July 10. 2007 12:30AM U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann continued to stand by President Bush's military surge in Iraq, two days after returning from a congressional trip that put her in the line of fire while visiting Baghdad. "It hasn't had a chance to be in place long enough to offer a critique of how it's working," said Bachmann, R-Minn. Bachmann visited Ireland, Germany, Pakistan and Kuwait as well on a seven-day tour as part of a six-member congressional delegation that returned Saturday to the U.S. The delegation's visit was harrowing at times. While visiting with U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker at the U.S. Embassy inside Baghdad's walled, high-security Green Zone on Friday, mortar blasts landed inside the American-controlled territory. "This recorded message played four times while we were there, asking us to move away from any windows, to get on the ground and move to the center of the building," Bachmann said. "(Crocker) stayed in his seat and kept talking with us the whole time. He never moved." Public polls show eroding support for a continued American military presence in Iraq, which has now exceeded the country's involvement in World War II and has cost more than 3,600 American lives. A nationwide CBS News poll conducted late last month found that 63 percent of those polled said America should set a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. Two-thirds believe America should remove all or some of its troops, and 76 percent say the additional 20,000 U.S. troops sent to Iraq have either made no difference or made things worse. A new estimate of war costs from the Congressional Research Service reports that Iraq is costing the United States $10 billion a month. Bachmann represents Minnesota's 6th Congressional District, which includes northern and eastern suburbs of the Twin Cities and the St. Cloud area. Good and bad Security conditions in Iraq prevented Bachmann from meeting any Iraqis, leaving the Green Zone or staying in Iraq overnight. She and other congressional members were required to wear full body armor, including Kevlar helmets, during the entire trip, she said. But she said she was encouraged by reports of progress from Crocker, Gen. David Petraeus and other personnel in Iraq linked to the surge. A comprehensive report on military progress and whether the Iraqi government is meeting a series of political benchmarks Bush has set is expected. "(Gen. Petraeus) said al-Qaida in Iraq is off its plan and we want to keep it that way," she said. "The surge has only been fully in place for a week or so." Bachmann said she asked Petraeus, the American military commander in Iraq, about Minnesota's National Guard contingent in Iraq and the possibility that they would have to be redeployed to that country again after they return home this summer. "He mentioned how pleased he was with their performance, considering they're not regular Army units," she said. "He said he didn't believe they'd be redeployed anytime soon." Other experiences Earlier in the trip, Bachmann and other members of Congress met with Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz in Islamabad at the same time a military siege of Islamic militants inside the city's Red Mosque was taking place just a few miles away. The group had to travel in armored vehicles and was constantly accompanied by Pakistani military armed with machine guns, Bachmann said. "We were all able to see extremely up close and personal what it's like to be in a region where fighting is occurring," she said. "We constantly felt like we were in need of security." An aircraft malfunction put the delegation in Ireland during the attempted terrorist attack in Glasgow, Scotland, in the neighboring United Kingdom. Bachmann said the dangers posed by Islamic terrorism in Iraq, Britain and Pakistan justified the continued American military presence in Iraq. She referred to "al-Qaida" as the source of the terrorism, although that is only one of the numerous Sunni and Shiite factions fighting in Iraq. "We don't want to see al-Qaida get a presence in the United States," she said. "Al-Qaida doesn't seem to show any signs of letting up. We have to keep that in mind."
  11. Meanwhile Bush/Cheney will continue to stall and lie, and maintain the status quo, to protect the worlds largest embassy under construction, along with those 14 permanent bases, and just dump the whole mess in the lap of the next administration, and walk away. They need to be held accountable, along with their supporters! Too many people have died, to allow them to just walk away into retirement, and high paying jobs on corporate boards! This is our generations Vietnam, and we will be decades paying for it, and recovering from it.