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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Why the Hard-on for Hilary?

    I think SNLs Amy Poehler summed it up best, "Someone so annoying, so persistant, so shrill, so irritating, so ambitious, so........
  2. You ain't seen nothing yet! Wait until we attack Iran. And crude oil is already at $98 a barrel, and we haven't even done anything yet. Just use your imagination.
  4. The next hundred years will be critical if we attack Iran! We cannot simply bomb them and leave, as the happy war planners in Washington would have us believe. They will definately retaliate. No one knows what Russia and China will do. But I really think Bush/Cheney will go ahead and do it anyway! And crude oil is almost to a hundred dollars a barrel, and we haven't even attacked yet! What will five or ten dollar a gallon gasoline do to our economy, and the cost of food and everything else?
  5. Iraqi Official Gunned Down in Baghdad SINAN SALAHEDDIN November 4, 2007 BAGHDAD (AP) — Two carloads of gunmen ambushed a top aide to Iraq's Finance Ministry on Sunday in Baghdad, killing him and his driver, police said. The two were among 15 people killed or found dead in Iraq. The Finance Ministry had no immediate comment about the attack on Qutaiba Badir al-Din Mohammed, a Sunni adviser to Iraq's finance minister. Violence claimed the lives of 10 Iraqis in Diyala, the troubled province northeast of Baghdad. Police said the victims included an Iraqi soldier, a policeman and an 8-year-old child, all killed separately. The soldier died when gunmen attacked his patrol in Khalis, a mostly Shiite town 50 miles north of the capital, police said. Three other soldiers were wounded in the attack, they said. The child died after seven mortar rounds landed on a residential area in the same town at sunrise, police said. A woman was also wounded by the barrage. And the policeman was killed in a drive-by shooting in nearby Muqdadiyah, 60 miles north of Baghdad, police said. Meanwhile, police said clashes broke out in Buhriz, a suburb of Diyala's provincial capital, Baqouba. Policemen backed by members of the 1920s Revolution Brigades, a Sunni former insurgent group, battled gunmen and seized weapons and ammunition, they said. Four people were killed, including a 1920s member, police said. Later, a civilian was killed by a roadside bomb north of Baqouba, and a severed head was found dumped at a farm nearby, police said. Another body was found floating in a drainage ditch in the Tahrir area, in a southern part of the city, they said. Farther west, a parked car bomb exploded in a commercial area in central Tikrit, killing three people including a 6-year-old boy, police said. :: Article nr. 37869 sent on 05-nov-2007 02:10 ECT We now return you to our regularly scheduled Dogshit Network propaganda. The official voice of the Bushshit White House, where facts never get in the way of a happy story.
  6. 2007 Toll Nears Highest for US in Iraq LAUREN FRAYER November 4, 2007 BAGHDAD (AP) — With just under two months left in the year, 2007 is on course to be the deadliest year on record for American forces in Iraq, despite a recent sharp drop in U.S. deaths. At least 847 American military personnel have died in Iraq so far this year — the second-highest annual toll since the war began in March 2003, according to Associated Press figures. In 2004, the bloodiest year of the war for the U.S. so far, 850 American troops died. Most were killed in large, conventional battles like the campaign to cleanse Fallujah of Sunni militants in November, and U.S. clashes with Shiite militiamen in the sect's holy city of Najaf in August. But the American military in Iraq has increased its exposure this year, reaching 165,000 troops — the highest levels yet. Moreover, the military's decision to send soldiers out of large bases and into Iraqi communities means more troops have seen more "contact with enemy forces" than ever before, said Maj. Winfield Danielson, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad. "It's due to the troop surge, which allowed us to go into areas that were previously safe havens for insurgents," Danielson said. "Having more soldiers, and having them out in the communities, certainly contributes to our casualties." Last spring, U.S. platoons took up positions — often in abandoned houses or in muddy, half-collapsed police stations — in the heart of neighborhoods across Baghdad and nearby communities. The move was part of President Bush's new strategy to drive al-Qaida from the capital. The idea was to fight the "three-block war" — in the words of the Pentagon counterinsurgency manual written in part by America's commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus — by embedding U.S. forces inside Iraqi communities in order to win the trust and, crucially, the aid of residents. It was the first time many residents had seen U.S. troops up close, rather than whizzing by in armored convoys en route to huge bases that house thousands of troops. And it was the first time many U.S. troops went to bed each night outside those fortresses, to the sounds of Iraqi life: gunfire, the roar of helicopters overhead and an occasional explosion. The move has worked, U.S. officials say. Increasingly, the sounds of Baghdad include children playing in the streets. "It's allowed Iraqi civilians to get more comfortable with U.S. forces — increasing the number of tips we get from Iraqi citizens," Danielson said. "That leads us to insurgent leaders and cells, and cleaning those up has led to a decline in violence over the past couple months." Stationing U.S. troops in communities, where they have reduced the level of Iraqi-on-Iraqi violence, also appears to have helped win the trust of the leaders of Shiite and Sunni communities. And that has helped the U.S. persuade those leaders to join the fight against radical groups, especially al-Qaida in Iraq. The U.S. troop increase also put pressure on anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who called a formal cease-fire in August. That, it appears, has slashed the number of mutilated bodies discovered on the banks of the Tigris River and other dump sites each day, the apparent victims of sectarian murders. At least 1,023 Iraqi civilians died in September, but in October, that figure was just 875. On average, 56 Iraqis — civilians and security forces — have died each day in 2007. Twenty were killed or found dead on Sunday, including an aide to the finance minister, who was ambushed in Baghdad. Twelve of the deaths were in volatile Diyala province, including an Iraqi soldier, a policeman and an 8-year-old child, all killed separately. But the same strategy that U.S. military officials say has reduced violence so sharply in recent months is what made 2007 so deadly for American forces. Small patrol bases make attractive targets for insurgents. In April, nine U.S. soldiers were killed and 20 wounded when two suicide truck bombers rammed into their building in the heart of Diyala, northeast of Baghdad. It was the deadliest attack on U.S. troops in Iraq in a year and a half. U.S. troops ventured out on Iraq's roads more frequently in 2007, and insurgents responded by building larger, more powerful and more difficult to detect roadside bombs. On a single day in June, the military announced the deaths of 14 troops, most killed by such explosions. Diyala's provincial capital, Baqouba, was planted with so many hidden explosive devices that some streets were declared off-limits to U.S. military vehicles. :: Article nr. 37866 sent on 05-nov-2007 01:51 ECT www.uruknet.info?p=37866
  7. Ding ding ding, Reality Check Time! Sunday: 83 Iraqis Killed, 53 Wounded Margaret Griffis, Antiwar.com Updated at 1:00 p.m EST, Nov. 4, 2007 At least 83 Iraqis were killed or found dead and another 53 were wounded in the latest violence. Among the incidents was the discovery of a mass grave near Ramadi. Also, no Coalition soldiers were reported killed. Near Ramadi, Iraqi security forces discovered a mass grave containing approximately 40 corpses and dozens of civilians cars believed to have been seized by al-Qaeda connected militants. In Baghdad, four dumped bodies were recovered. Two people were wounded in the Karrada Mariam neighborhood. In Saidiya, gunmen killed two female principals at different area schools. A Finance Ministry adviser and his driver were gunned down in Jamiaa. Also, the Iraqi army with U.S. support captured 12 suspects in the Adhamiya neighborhood; however, the Sunni Association of Muslim Scholars condemned the raid, which occurred at a religious college. Thirteen more suspects were arrested in western Baghdad. A car bomb in Samarra killed four and wounded 11, including policemen. Two suicide bombers wounded a combined 17 people in the Bab Sinjar area, near Mosul. Near Hibhib, three Peshmerga troops were killed and five more were wounded during an attack. A car bomb in Tikrit killed three people and wounded 13 others. A child was among the dead. Also, three bodies, including one belonging to a police lieutenant colonel, were found. Motorcycle-riding gunmen killed a policeman west of Kut yesterday. Also, the wife of a police officer was kidnapped in a separate incident in the city. Police in Garma arrested 30 suspects and discovered three decomposed bodies. A decapitated corpse was recovered in Abbasi. One soldier was killed and three more were wounded in Khalis. A child was killed and a woman was injured during a mortar attack. Also, nine bodies were discovered. In Diyala province, a policeman was killed. One woman was killed and another was injured in Abu Saida Gunmen killed a woman in Seif Saad. A body was found in Baquba. British troops in Basra destroyed a missile launching facility in the al-Shoala area. No casualties were reported. Also, tensions over the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) have now left one dead and four wounded in northeastern Syria during a demonstration. Thousands of Kurds attended a funeral for the dead youth. Kurds populate regions in Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Iran and Armenia. Meanwhile, eight Turkish soldiers held by PKK rebels were released. Compiled by Margaret Griffis :: Article nr. 37877 sent on 05-nov-2007 04:06 ECT
  8. Can the US military achieve success

    And the troops would come from where, Sol? Ever consider the reaction from the rest of the middle east, if we invaded Pakistan? Ahem. Doesn't Pakistan have nucs? Last I heard they did.
  9. Can the US military achieve success

    Well there ya go. Couldn't put it any plainer than that. Surely we can't leave now. Bhouwahahahahaha Another flag waving bonehead swallowed this Bush/CIA created propaganda. How convenient of Al Quaidas "Number Two Man" to state publicly that their goal is to take over Iraq as a base. Why are we always treated to statements from the "Number Two Man" now? Perhaps any statements from O Sammy would remind the american people, that Bush never caught him. Perhaps the public has become so skeptical of statements from O Sammy, that the Bushies had to come up with someone else to scare us. Perhaps the public and the politicians have become so fed up with Bushs war, that a direct statement from Al Quaida, that "want to take over Iraq as a base", was neccessary to reinvigorate the base. What a steaming pile of shit. The worst part of this whole mess, is that a few mindless lemmings still buy into it. Heh heh heh. Don't throw away that duct tape and plastic!
  10. Can the US military achieve success

    The original post in this thread is a steaming pile of shit and propaganda, straight from the Pentagon Office of Disinformation! Bachmann: Surge needs time By Lawrence Schumacher, lschumacher@stcloudtimes.com Published: July 10. 2007 12:30AM U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann continued to stand by President Bush's military surge in Iraq, two days after returning from a congressional trip that put her in the line of fire while visiting Baghdad. "It hasn't had a chance to be in place long enough to offer a critique of how it's working," said Bachmann, R-Minn. Bachmann visited Ireland, Germany, Pakistan and Kuwait as well on a seven-day tour as part of a six-member congressional delegation that returned Saturday to the U.S. The delegation's visit was harrowing at times. While visiting with U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker at the U.S. Embassy inside Baghdad's walled, high-security Green Zone on Friday, mortar blasts landed inside the American-controlled territory. "This recorded message played four times while we were there, asking us to move away from any windows, to get on the ground and move to the center of the building," Bachmann said. "(Crocker) stayed in his seat and kept talking with us the whole time. He never moved." Public polls show eroding support for a continued American military presence in Iraq, which has now exceeded the country's involvement in World War II and has cost more than 3,600 American lives. A nationwide CBS News poll conducted late last month found that 63 percent of those polled said America should set a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. Two-thirds believe America should remove all or some of its troops, and 76 percent say the additional 20,000 U.S. troops sent to Iraq have either made no difference or made things worse. A new estimate of war costs from the Congressional Research Service reports that Iraq is costing the United States $10 billion a month. Bachmann represents Minnesota's 6th Congressional District, which includes northern and eastern suburbs of the Twin Cities and the St. Cloud area. Good and bad Security conditions in Iraq prevented Bachmann from meeting any Iraqis, leaving the Green Zone or staying in Iraq overnight. She and other congressional members were required to wear full body armor, including Kevlar helmets, during the entire trip, she said. But she said she was encouraged by reports of progress from Crocker, Gen. David Petraeus and other personnel in Iraq linked to the surge. A comprehensive report on military progress and whether the Iraqi government is meeting a series of political benchmarks Bush has set is expected. "(Gen. Petraeus) said al-Qaida in Iraq is off its plan and we want to keep it that way," she said. "The surge has only been fully in place for a week or so." Bachmann said she asked Petraeus, the American military commander in Iraq, about Minnesota's National Guard contingent in Iraq and the possibility that they would have to be redeployed to that country again after they return home this summer. "He mentioned how pleased he was with their performance, considering they're not regular Army units," she said. "He said he didn't believe they'd be redeployed anytime soon." Other experiences Earlier in the trip, Bachmann and other members of Congress met with Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz in Islamabad at the same time a military siege of Islamic militants inside the city's Red Mosque was taking place just a few miles away. The group had to travel in armored vehicles and was constantly accompanied by Pakistani military armed with machine guns, Bachmann said. "We were all able to see extremely up close and personal what it's like to be in a region where fighting is occurring," she said. "We constantly felt like we were in need of security." An aircraft malfunction put the delegation in Ireland during the attempted terrorist attack in Glasgow, Scotland, in the neighboring United Kingdom. Bachmann said the dangers posed by Islamic terrorism in Iraq, Britain and Pakistan justified the continued American military presence in Iraq. She referred to "al-Qaida" as the source of the terrorism, although that is only one of the numerous Sunni and Shiite factions fighting in Iraq. "We don't want to see al-Qaida get a presence in the United States," she said. "Al-Qaida doesn't seem to show any signs of letting up. We have to keep that in mind."
  11. Can the US military achieve success

    Meanwhile Bush/Cheney will continue to stall and lie, and maintain the status quo, to protect the worlds largest embassy under construction, along with those 14 permanent bases, and just dump the whole mess in the lap of the next administration, and walk away. They need to be held accountable, along with their supporters! Too many people have died, to allow them to just walk away into retirement, and high paying jobs on corporate boards! This is our generations Vietnam, and we will be decades paying for it, and recovering from it.
  12. maby its a bit to conservative

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