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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

Nessun Dorma

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About Nessun Dorma

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    Sailing, cooking, red wines of certain ages and styles, any good scotch, woman of certain ages and shapes, my gorgeous wife, my kids, the Coen brothers, and Ronald Reagan.
  1. Bob: Final overhang came in at around 43" on centerline, 3" more at each side.
  2. PS with this stupid new interface and editor, I now don't know how to edit typos and such in my posts, so you guys just have to make due. I'm an old fart and despise change, what was wrong with the old interface and editor??
  3. +1 on the bob is a PIA to work with. He is opinionated, stubborn, surly and temperamental when questioned by amatuers, and believes he knows better than everyone else. The problem is, he's right 99% of the time, so he's earned the right to be opinionated, stubborn, surly and temperamental with clients and to believe he knows best. As a client, you either come to love and accept that -- and have enough balls and passion to keep asking questions and advocating changes even while being scolded -- or you find a designer who will build you whatever piece of shit you think up. There are plenty of those designers out there, and they're looking for work. What I love about Bob is that he tells me to shut up and he has for two years. He tells me I am an amateur. He reminds me that I have sailed on maybe 10 or so boats in my life and he has sailed on hundreds. He tells me to let him design the boat, just tell him the outcomes I want. It takes guts to treat paying clients that way. And bob does it not because he has a big ego (ok, maybe you do Bob), but becasue in the end Bob wants the boat to be safe, fast and accomadte my familys needs. Thanks for posting the hull shot with the midget in it Bob, that ally helped with perspective and now Ms. ND is scared out of her minds out the size of the boat. "it's so HUGE, I never realized..." is not something a husband wants to hear while buildings a boat. In fairness,MIT is big, but boats look big out of the water and an empty hull always looks huge. for 61 feet, she's a narrow boat with LSW of around 45,000 pounds (50,000 DSW). Most cruisers this size are wider by a few feet and heavier. I have a friend with a Halberg Rassey 62. Same waterline length of about 50 feet but it's about 75,000 pounds and about two feet wider. That is jot a bad thing, but it matters in many aas. So yeah, our hull is big but it's all relative. I'm planning strip soon to PSC and will be reporting back soon and posting pics.
  4. As far as CATARI being on the PSC webiste, I believe they wanted to wait for some of the articles such as BWS to come out first, and to have the hull at the plant with photos, and then do a more formal rollout. There will be something in the near future on the site.
  5. Hello all, I'm back home and online. I confess I tried to log on a few times during the SA browser mess, and assumed it was my Ipad. It looks like that all has been worked out. I see Bob posted the pictures of half the hull mold rolling into PSC. That's pretty amazing. Both halves are now at the shop and will be joined this week; the deck mold arrives soon as well. Once those are in place, I'll make a trip down to PSC and spend the day with Steve. We have a list of open items and odds and ends to address. But mostly I want to go stand inside that huge empty hull and take photos. The shed its in is empty as it will be dedicated to CATARI. And there will be 2 web cams taking time lapse photos, some of which i will share, with PSC's permission. Sorry if we haven't been providing much boat building entertainment these past few months -- but as Bob and Rasp can attest, the team has been immersed in the very detailed drawings needed to complete the molds, arraneg all the deck hardware placement, depths and build ups, angles and small clearances and such. Not very fascinating to post about, and I confess that while I read all of what is sent and look at the painfully concise CAD drawngs and charts and table of stress loads, etc., I am only understanding 1/10th of what is now happening. I just tell Bob, the engineers and the team: "make it as strong as you can where it needs to be strong, then a little more so." I think they have been doing that, even at the cost a wee bit of weight. I promise that we will post more when there is more to say or decide upon. With summer here, I have placed things like interior layout changes, selections of woods, systems issues, wiringa dn elctrical, the stove/ranges, HVAC, NAVCOM electronics, ground tackle, sails, etc on a back burner -- but will be back at it again as the build progresses and the weather turns.
  6. Hey guys. I spent a few hours last night catching up on the CA posts from the past month or so. Sorry I've been off of CA so much - in case anyone cares. :-) I've been travelling a lot and when home making an effort to spend less time on my computer and Iphone. I've recently staged into retirement, and after years of being very connected with technology for my job, my friends, my personal affairs and my kids, this is and has been hard for me. But it's something I've committed to do. So I've been sailing more, traveling to visit old friends I'd lost touch with, getting my punch list of projects around the house done, catching up on a lot of books I'd always told myself I would read, and generally thinking about my next phase of life, what I want to do, and where I want to do it. CATARI obviously plays a big role in that. On the CATARI front, the project is moving along, still on schedule after 6 weeks. The hull mold is almost complete and will be in place next week, with the deck molds following soon after. We have a few pictures but they are hard to take because of the scale. We'll get some better ones in the next few weeks. Bob did a nice little write up for BWS that I was surprised to see while flipping through the current issue one night recently -- its sort of funny to see your boat in a magazine. I will be posting pics as the boat comes to look more like a boat, and I will share some decisions we've made about systems and equipment. As always, we'll ask for advice from WLYDO and others on CA. Lastly, as Bob mentioned, I got a sweet little 13' Penguin for my wife and daughter to practice sailing on. Problem is, I've been having way too much fun with it this summer to let either of them use it ... picture attached.
  7. You have a good eye to spot that. We agree. Bob.... never noticed it before but that small opening port at the forward end of the coachroof is perfect. My eye keeps moving between it and the dodger. That small touch gives a perfect harmony to all the heights and angles . I'm constantly amazed how often it's the little details that make a design . Things like the Frer's transom on the 90"s Swans and the deck facets on the C&C's.
  8. Fuck off. I think mixing elements well is an art. It isn't easy to do. I think it's been done well here. Congratulations. Why is that dodger window oval again? I remember some prior mention in which I think someone suggested that a larger, squarer window would provide more visibility and light and would look more like the rest of the boat. I think this individual was told to fuck off, that you like it that way. At the risk of being told to fuck off and that you like it that way, I have to say that in this rendering I agree with the prior comment. It's the only oval thing I see. It kind of looks funny. Hey, you guys asked for opinions!
  9. You mean the window on the aft house structure? That was never not oval. We like it oval. Congratulations. Why is that dodger window oval again?
  10. I actuaslly think they may be considering different configurations. Not sure.
  11. PSC and i have discussed teak grate lids not solid lids for the reasons you site. Probably with a mesh grate/bag at the bottom and drainage as you say. Details to be worked out later. How the hell big were your holes BV???!!
  12. Bob only lets me break ties anout 20% of the time. the other times he says it will endanger crew members or the intergity of the boat. :-)
  13. Good advice. I think with time everyone gets to know their own sail and system. The beauty of the preset is I think that you can take on a new crw member and its one less thing for them to worry about when reefing or helping reef. On boats I've sailed people just mark the vang lines witha sharpie ... but its always been marked in some way.
  14. The vang hydraulics will be ecletric but equiped with a manual override; we'll plumb in one of the manual pumps with a receiver for a handle. The pre-set for the roller furling feature only work swith the electric side, but we will have a good backup if we lose power.PSC has been discussing this with the vendors. My goal is to have everything that is electric installed with a manual backup. I have the system 50 Navtec as shown on the renderings, with the panel in stainless steel. I hate the look of black anodized aluminum. Are you considering the new "cam valve technology" by Navtec? Not sure what the benefit would be. Are you going with a manual pump for the vang hydraulics?
  15. We'll be using the winches for the stern anchor, which will have only a short legnth of chain and use an angel for bite. Its not ideal but there really isn't room to spare aft for a windlass and gypsy. In estreme cases where needed we can use a longer chain chain and lead it around.