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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Therefore the words as used.. "largely" amateur ...appears to match your viewpoint. How are they not amateur? 1 apprentice sailmaker and 2 guys that work for the boat. Everyone else has a day job and doesn't get paid. Just a group of good amateur guys, and 1 girl
  2. You probably should have a reread of those results, it was half a day in front
  3. Jeebus, I've read some utter tripe on SA before but this about wins the prize. Ever hear of a learning curve? Example, a guy showed up last season with an Open 6.5 at our summer slogfest and finished DFL-1, DFL, DFL, DFl, DFL and then bagged it DNC DNC DNC. This was in the "Sportboat Class" (sportyatch, really). I guess they should just burn the Open to the waterline, huh? "Guys, if you don't get a podium spot in the first regatta you ever enter with a new boat, the boat's a dog! Get ridda the damn thing!!!" Be funny if it weren't so assinine. Did you read the owners report. It was his suggestion. Right after he apologised for entering his boat right after he said they sailed well and on polars with good sets and yet they were up to taking 50% longer than a M20, who also actually were in their first regatta as well and managed to win a heat. Looks like a fun boat, just doesn't belong in the sportsboat div.
  4. 5m WL??, I think Raptors WL is only 5.5m. so that is no excuse. DBSS is only 0.6m shorter than a Melges 20 with 0.5m more draft and a shit load more sail area, of course it will rate higher. Kite area is cheap, up hill gear is expensive. Look at a T7, big chute but they still rate ok. There are 2 things that are the biggest influences which are unrated. Ballast ratio and hull shape. You have to have a good hull shaper under your rig otherwise you can't sail to the rating. The i550 shape is shit. Sure easy to build but it is terrible, it will never be a fast boat. Wobble is on to it, cutup the hull and build a hick 6 or even better an Egan 6. Sounds like the excemption must of been provisional, and after that regatta is would be stupid if the ASBA allowed for a full excemption so if wobble wants to race sportsboat he will have to do something dramatic. Look at heat 4, M20 51mins i550 76mins, thats a lot to catch up
  5. KOJ, there's one advertised here, http://www.jervisbaysailingclub.com.au/new_page_6.htm and not too far away. I sailed one for 10 years, so if I can help ...... I'll be racing Sports boats at the HCW race GS, although there are not many entered even though it's listed on the ASBA website as a 'regatta'. At the moment there only appears to be 6 entered, and 3 of them I don't think are measured SMS? But you'll correct me I'm sure. Maybe more will enter soon eh? But if ASBA members won't support one of their own 'recommended' regattas, why would I bother with SMS? I just bought the boat for a bit of fun with my kids, you know what that's like don't you? Fun? PS. I apologise for my grammar and spelling errors, but I used to own a Mac26 ........ There is no metion of SMS or ASBA in the NOR of th HCW, so why would the sportsboats turn up to race a mixed fleet event when they could go do a race that will have an SMS division lke the St Helena cup. States in the NOR there is an SMS div. Sportsboats sailors like to race other sportsboats simple and go where they have a division
  6. http://www.elliott-marine.com/e5.9.html Elliott website says it is a trailer bucket. It weighs twice what Shorty weighs which is over 10 years old. What is it with all these TS owners wanting to be called a sportsboat. The ATYSBA not working out for all.