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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Yeah...I'd be happy to give her some "Milk with nuts". Sorry...couldn't resist!
  2. In addition to the problem in the OP, I can't quote (as I attempted to do here). Shouldn't be this tough!
  3. You may enjoy racing in light air, but I don't think the public (or most weekend sailors for that matter) will appreciate the nuances. I think Ellison (who does appreciate the nuances) wisely went to multi hulls for one reason - to make sailing an exciting spectator sport. Light air ain't gonna do it, and a Northerly won't be much better! Pray for West wind Sept 2013! Ha! Yacht clubs are good for hoists and sometimes bars. Also LBYC has a very nice continental breakfast, I hear. I've blabbed on about this story before, but I saw the first winged USA sail in San Diego and it flew a hull in the lightest of zephyrs on glass as they flashed by the crowd. Conceivably, one of the new ones could get a hull out of the water with 0 knots of wind and a half decent current. I think I've won half a dozen races in the really, really light, so I have fond memories. Koukel
  4. Thats depressing! Worse yet - Where did they come up with "72' tall sailboats" The 72's will be around 130 off the water http://www.cupinfo.com/en/americas-cup-2013-boats-ac72-ac45.php
  5. At the AC presentation at the Corinthian, they were saying the length of the race is dictated by TV (NBC). They specify a time and the marks (AC power boats) alter the course based on real time conditions to accommodate it! They said you could pull up to a dock in one of these (I think he said 45') boats, instruct it to maintain it's position, step off and tie up at your leisure!
  6. Thats why I said it wouldn't be a disaster. However, I'd much rather see them flying a hull! The event will need as much excitement as it can get to generate interest. I've gone to several Yacht Clubs to watch the AC World Series. Not only did they not know it was happening, they didn't even have the Comcast channel to watch it! I asked a Commodore about it during a YC open house and he actually said, "Well....we are kind of into baseball right now". I laughed and said: "I AM in a yacht club aren't I ?". If yacht clubs don't give a shit, how is the general public supposed to care?! I don't think there is a windless day with these cats. I'm a light air nerd anyway, http://forums.sailin...8&hl=dixon&st=0, but three to five will get these boats moving very fast around the course. Koukel
  7. The LV will be held in July and August while the AC will be in September. I'm more concerned about windless, warm days for the AC than layering up for the cold. Not the disaster for the Cats it would be with Mono hulls, but it would be disappointing. I took this (B&W) shot from the Wave Organ (Golden Gate YC) during the Oracle - Alingi challenge (forget the year, 06?). The boats came so close that I have another shot where you can see Alingi's entire cockpit during a tack, right down to the crew's feet (don't have it scanned, or I would post it)! It's going to be great wherever you are. I'll watch some races from shore, and some from my boat, catching the replay and commentary later on You Tube. So many options....life is good! In Newport I was shoreside Friday, and on the water Saturday in a Privileged flagged boat, directly behind the starting line. I've been on the water in other AC's, on privileged flagged boats, and while always a nice experience, the way this is being laid out, shoreside is the place to be. Besides, in SFO when on the water you'll be dressed like you are going skiing. Looking forward to seeing EaglesPDX showing up in his Whaler with his iPad(s?) on his console.
  8. Took these shots of Pier 80 on Thursday. USA 17 has been moved from the rear of the shed to the front lot (first picture). The old dry dock has been removed (don't know how that thing was still floating!). USA 17 is on the left, moorings for the 43's are the small orange dots in the foreground (second shot). Wonder when the 72 will splash?