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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. That is one thing I found out on my Raptor 17.5. When it starts getting gusty I roller furl my main to a sliver and she still is moving quick. I have a track half the length of the boom to control main clew angle when partly furled. This really helped with the sail shape when it is blowing. Pointing ability goes down a bit when furled but with the water ballast is comfortable and steady and gets me where I needed to go. The main benefit I have is there is no assembly before launch Just slip the mast onto the mast base and launch off trailer. All the lines are attached so no need to rig. It also only takes one space in the garage so always ready to go:)
  2. Having a Supercat 15 many years ago sitting on the hull after many hours got me sore. Seeing your videos on the Asus reminds me of those times:) After 63 I do not have that kind of stamina to do what you do. Being able to sit in a relaxed position while still working the sails works for me. I still think the Ninga Pro was my favorite as it was a great design. Too bad he could not make a go of it. A nice design and getting it to work correctly is a whole new ball game. I have been modifying my Raptor 17.5 for ten years but getting pretty close:)
  3. I will! Living on Lake Winnebago in Wisconsin I saw a great decline in sailing. There are still the Tuesday night races but less people show up. The good thing is as we get older we have more time on our hands but slowing down kind of makes it even. I found out you need a machine that is easier to launch and to be able to do it solo as most of your friends really do not care to do it anymore. Being retired I worry more where I can launch and what the launch fee's are. But once I am on the water with some wind it really does not matter what direction I go. I can dial in the excitement with the roller furling sail and active water ballast. With the modifications I made in the last two years it only takes less than a minute to right and practice it once in a while on a hot day to stay competent. The ultimate is on a steady breeze day getting everything setup and just flying the ama for a long distance upwind at 7-8 knots is a worthy feeling. At 35 degrees to the wind it is not too shabby in my book. I have plenty of drinks to prevent hydration onboard and if need be I can always call my soulmate to meet me with the trailer in case I venture too far and do not want to sleep on the cot that night. I have the minimum aboard always for those kind of days. Sure the F24 would be more comfortable but I still have some adventure spirit in me after all these years:) It is just a different lifestyle that I am glad to experience in my retirement years.
  4. Amati Since the main hull is 17'6" long by 13" wide and the ama just kisses the water there is very little drag so it moves right along in the lightest of air. Once you hit a puff you accelerate and are gone. It really is a blast to sail and with all the controls available you can tweak to your hearts content:)
  5. Wess John Slattebo designed it as a Raptor 16. I did major modifications in the years I had her to what it is today. Some worked and some did not. The link below shows what I did up to 2011. After that I modified the sail and fitted a new aluminum daggerboard. I also added the Speedpuck and hand tiller so I can lay on the tramp to sail or when I want to stretch my legs. The overall weight ready to sail is 160 Lbs. but is pretty much bulletproof now. It seems like many older guys like Meade like sailing a smaller size boat for ease of use. I also found that out coming from my F24 many years back. I can launch or retrieve in 5 minutes and go in 6" of water. It also goes well in light air. I also plan on getting a electric drive for when I am over 5 miles out and the wind dies completely . I can paddle all day at 2.5 knots but it would be nice just to lower the drive and go 3.5 knots till I get close to my destination. For me it has everything I need to go for a quick sail whenever the mood strikes. http://www.raptor-uk.net/guests/eddievb/comments1.html IMG_0154 by evanbelkom, on Flickr
  6. Amati The average speed went up as I had better control in windy conditions. In lighter air I was consistently 1-1.5 knots faster with the water ballast when I also had the foil installed. I was able to test using either one or both combined. After a season of testing all parameters I removed the foil as using the water ballast alone gave me the best overall performance. This season I will be able to see what the last improvements I did will effect the performance on all points of sail. With the Speedpuck you will be able to see the true speeds I am doing at those points of sail.
  7. It was fun at first but either the wind picked up or got gusty and the foil did not have enough down force to correct. As the ama went up less of the foil was in the water making it worst. In perfect conditions it was a blast but now I can fine tune the ballast weight to have the ama just off the water. After all the experimentation and different setup's it is now the most comfortable way to sail. I always get asked where my laptop is when sailing past the monohull fleet:) I will post some videos this year showing how it sails with my Speedpuck aboard. IMG_3323 by evanbelkom, on Flickr
  8. My Raptor also had the Bruce foil that I removed for an active ballast system. I found in many tests it was faster overall on the course. Since I could dump or fill the ballast in less that 90 seconds if needed it could be done while tacking. With the foil you need speed to work so many times with full sail I would capsize before getting the speed needed to hold the ama down. Now between the roller furling sail and the amount of ballast needed I can go on both tacks in complete control without worrying about capsizing. It has worked very well and makes it comfortable to sail in heavier winds. Also with the foil it was such a delicate touch between the optimum angle and causing drag when you went over that amount. With the wind shifts and gusts it was too hard to control the angle with extension handle it had. With the water ballast I just roller furled the sail to the right size for the conditions and added just enough ballast to keep it steady. I used the mainsheet or traveler for gust control. In heavy air I might have a sliver of sail up and maybe 1/2 a tank ballast. I can go on either tack without having to change the amount in the tank. I am still doing 5-7 knots upwind but in a nice relaxed state.
  9. I have been sailing this since 2005. It took a few years to perfect it but with the roller furling sail it has worked very well for me. IMG_0277 by evanbelkom, on Flickr EVB68_Full_ballast by evanbelkom, on Flickr This is the tank that is installed in the ama. The ama weight is 44Lbs empty and 102 Lbs filled. With the 8' beam it works well. It takes 90 seconds to fill or drain with the electric pumps powered with the NiCD battery in the ama. EVB36_Ballast_bag by evanbelkom, on Flickr
  10. Waiting for the presentation? Bueller Bueller ....
  11. Tom I thought you were getting the carbon mast?
  12. Tom fingers crossed you end up with a keeper. Someone had to do it to keep things real. I sold my F24 to go powerboating but the sailing kept coming me back. I hope the improved outrigger sailing canoe I rebuilt will do it's job. The Gougeon 32 is the only other boat at this time I would consider. Hope you prove everyone wrong. Good luck and keep up posted. Eddie
  13. Good point . I have a sleeved sail so I do worry about it and it is in a sail bag when not used.
  14. I think the carbon mast weighs like 22 lbs. Just nice when you go by yourself as easier to rig. On my Raptor I just lift my carbon mast and roller furled sail and slip it on the mast base. Just pull the lines tight and launch
  15. Way to go Tom! So what options did you end up going with? Did you get the infused hull?