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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. I am 100% with Shark and _Scott_ on this one. Not 90%. 100%. CRA is 100% in the wrong, for those reasons. Any idiot can understand those reasons. Anyone who has been involved in the sport long enough to be a PRO must understand viscerally those reasons. Hiding behind "rules is rules" for Beer Can racing is lame. Lame. Stay off my boat lame. Stay out of my fleet lame. Stay home and watch TV lame.
  2. Seems a weird restriction to not have racks. Racks are fun, fast, and very cheap to add to a boat, and they can fold up, so little impact on finding a slip or trailering or keeping in the YC dry storage yard. Trapeze is fun. Trapeze from racks: simply amazing.
  3. I am enjoying the process of restoring a 1983 Olson 40 at Steve Brown's shop, Finco Fabrication. It is not a cheap process, but as someone said, much cheaper than a 2017 boat. $10K for new winches alone. New everything. New wiring. New plumbing. New sprit, keel, keel floors, rudder, prop, shaft, strut, rebuilt diesel. All new paint. Minor interior wood work. And its taking longer than planned, but I'd rather have it done well than done yesterday.
  4. Twice I've set off "forever" but after about a year, was very excited to get back to work. I have always really enjoyed my jobs, and enjoyed my businesses even more. Now, I'm just about to turn 60. Lisa bought us a boat, we are totally refurbishing it, so its going to be all new, and quite simple. The intent is for the boat to be a "magic carpet" where we can go wherever we want, whenever we want. Its not really so we can live on it forever. But it will be sufficient to live aboard for unlimited amounts of time. We will choose the limits, and I will not be surprised if that limit is again about a year. I am totally with BJ on the concept that I really like spending all my time with my wife. Since retiring 5 years ago, except for one much-more-work-than-I-signed-up-for but quite successful stint with a start-up, we have been together just about every day, all day. We met doing a trans Atlantic, so we have always had lots of together time since the day we met. Hence, its not a problem, its what we enjoy. I prefer very simple infrastructure. We've removed the water maker and SSB, and all the old electronics. No bimini or davits. No generator, a simple refer system, one head. Probably no roller furler! If it can fuck up when its really needed, we don't need it. If we can do without it, we won't re-install it. If we find out later we want it, no problem, it can be added later. Not trying to be a luddite, just trying to ensure we enjoy the adventure. Never been one to pay attention to keeping score. Been much more driven by novel experiences, and by the people I meet. So I don't have any need to prove I can live for decades aboard, or that I can circumnavigate, or that any of these sailing plans are really anything more than an intent. So while we have a plan (or intent) to do the Baja Ha Ha 2017, Panama before New Years, Winter/Spring in the Caribbean, and Summer 2018 in Maine, we really don't need to do all, or any of those things, to be happy with the boat and with life.
  5. A wooden boat? Really? There are so many fiberglass boats that are as beautiful, much faster, much cheaper to maintain, and much less likely to fall apart underneath you in heavy conditions. Wooden boats were essentially disposable boats: build it, sail it a season or two, and feed it to the fireplace over the winter. The early fiberglass production boats were usually rather traditional in appearance. Due to the racing rule at the time, CCA, that encouraged overhangs, keel centerboard, and yawl or ketch rigs, those boats work very well cruising. For small boats around 24 feet, there are many good ones to choose from. Lapworth and Cal 24s were essentially identical, with the L24 having a fixed deeper keel, the Cal having a keel centerboard. S&S designed a very similar Dolphin 24, which I think is just a little better in every way except for speed where its increased displacement hurts a tiny bit. Any of these: http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/cache/searchResults.jsp?cit=true&slim=quick&ybw=&sm=3&searchtype=homepage&Ntk=boatsEN&Ntt=&is=&man=&hmid=102&ftid=0&enid=0&type=(Sail)&fromLength=10&toLength=30&fromYear=1950&toYear=1970&fromPrice=0&toPrice=&luom=126&currencyid=100&city=&pbsint=&boatsAddedSelected=-1
  6. Reverse bows, or blunt bows, or even plumb bows, are simply a silly fashion. The bow shape that works best is that of the 5o5. I won't even include "IMHO" because its simply so clearly superior. As the shape diverges from that form, it gets worse. More overhang means more weight forward. A lower knuckle means less dynamic lift hence more wave drag. A more vertical stem means more water on deck, and far more work by the boat lifting that water vertically. And even on a 16 footer, the loss of waterline length is less of a negative than the increase in dynamic lift forward is a boost. So rather than "boring" my comment is "silly."
  7. Usually, that identifies very heavy boats that are set up for cruising. Especially those with lots of crap above the VCG and lots of windage, like dinghies on davits, air craft carrier bimini tops with solar arrays and farms (really!), huge cockpit enclosures, mast steps and baggywrinkle, radars way up the rig, roller furling mains, full keels, lots of weight in the ends, with essentially no thought about ergonomic deck layouts where sailing work can actually be performed. Oddly, some very cruisey boats like the Formosa 41 do NOT fit this definition -- those things can sail very well once cracked off just a bit, and the sail handling controls are effective.
  8. Woody, I hope you get in there with some good pics this afternoon. Forecast looks exciting! Get some shots of my best buds on Dark Star ...
  9. On Mirage, there was probably a time around 10pm when we were first. By 8:30am when we finished, we were DFL in class. We timed the start well, with speed, right at the committee boat. But all the other Maxis barged, we gave way (its a race for margaritas!), and got rolled. Being the slowest boat with smallest sail plan in the class makes it tough at a tight start in light air and big slop. So we had to head down the coast to clear our air, and ended up in the middle of the smaller boats, with lots of chopped up water and air. So we ended up still inside the rhumb line when the wind filled in. During that wonderful afternoon starboard tack with A3, we were in the solid low teens, with a high boat speed of about 18.4 knots. As sunset neared, the inconsistencies in the wind mixed it up, allowing smaller boats to rapidly close and catch us. It was fun to watch, but disappointing, as SC52 Elixir and some all white 40 or 45 footer planed up on us. When they caught us and had to sail in the same light air, they ended up gradually reaching out to sea. We did too, but to a lesser extent. We passed the Coronados about 8 nm outside. Many, many boats were well outside, going faster but ten or more miles abeam. We were able to maintain 0-4 knots most of the time in the crazy seas and 0-8 knots of wind. At about 10:30pm, we suddenly got headed by 100 degrees, which allowed us to point directly at Ensenada on a close A1 reach. Now we were also aligned with the swells, so with the same wind strength we were smoothly sailing at close to wind speed. We sailed right around boats inside, and could see the lights of many competitors now miles astern, instead of just miles outside. Looking good! But the wind continued to be very unsteady until about 4am, when finally we broke through to much more steady offshore breeze. As the wind came up until the finish, the offshore breeze was between 8 and 24 knots, much more steady in direction than one might expect considering the number of canyons and hills. The wind was very patchy: BlueFlash was a speck on the horizon as the sun came up, but we sailed right past them about 100 yards to leeward of them: we were rail down at 10.5 knots, they were drifting under their Code Zero! Boats a mile to leeward were in very light slop as we blasted past. We passed Horizon three times, as we both swapped between #1 and #3 over and over. Finally, we finished a few minutes in front of BlueFlash with Horizon finishing a couple minutes later.
  10. Chase boats pick up sails and gear. This was 30 years ago, when it was very common for commercial and research and other vessels to throw everything over the side. Like the behavior of rock and roll stars and other celebrities decades ago: it was celebrated then, its bad today. The only constant regarding right-and-wrong is change.
  11. Here is a trick that Randy and Cam used for the one double-handed Formula 40 series: They tied a plastic bucket onto the end of the spinaker halyard. As the boat reached the windward mark at 25 knots, the bucket was pushed over the forward cross beam, and the chute was fully hoisted sixty feet later. The handle pulled out of the bucket when the halyard hit the masthead. A similar trick at the leeward mark on the retractor line through a sock: bucket over the aft cross beam, and seconds later the chute is down and packed.
  12. Ha ha! I agree, a long sprit seems so out to the edge ... but again, on the boats I've tried it, I've never found too long a sprit. We all get fooled by the rating and box rules. Remember when people thought having VCG in the middle of the boat was a good idea, as it concentrated the weight? That bulbs were a bad idea, they would cause too much pitching? But again, we'll experiment and see. Yes, she does have a sister who is single! I'll tell her to get on this site. The requirement for the first post will be epic! The work at Finco is coming along well. Spent a few hours with the Harken rep, and got great ideas from him. Dealing with minutia -- pumps, batteries, ... Looking forward to when the fun starts!
  13. A 16' sprit on a 40' boat is not much different than the length of sprits on skiffs. One problem with Olson 40s is their max speed is basically due to driving that beautiful fine bow underwater. A long sprit gives the chute or screecher a lot of leverage lifting the bow, so planing is enabled and becoming a submarine is avoided. The length of the sprit will be determined experimentally. But previous experiments on other boats have every time suggested the sprit should be longer, not shorter.
  14. Something that a LOT of people who engineer with Carbon don't understand is that low modulus means the load does not spread through the structure like it does with lower modulus materials. With the drive shaft example in the above video, the load is nicely distributed around the tube, so the lighter carbon tube is clearly better, and relatively easy to design. With a rudder shaft, where the load is basically to the side and slightly aft (in the direction of lift, which is always slightly aft due to the unavoidable drag), a trapezoid section (almost rectangular, but slightly wider at the forward end) is needed for carbon, instead of the familiar tube that works fine for steel and especially aluminum. If one swaps a carbon tube that has the same torque strength as a steel tube on a rudder shaft, it will snap, because the only fibers providing strength are those right at the maximum I with respect to the load. So the vast majority of the fibers in the tube are completely unloaded. Hence, its an awful lot weaker than one might expect. The lack of load spreading is at the heart of most carbon structure failures.