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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. US Sailing Olympic Submission for 2024

    so the team race team has to be made up of sailors in the other classes. I am going to assume the kites and KB sailors aren't going to be included in the TR selection so we have to pull 3 men and 3 women from the dinghy classes. So the idea of USS is to spend an entire quad training in your chosen class and all that entails, maintaining a boat in the US and Europe, doing the whole WS circuit and making it to the Olympics and then on the last two days get trotted out for some dog and pony show that the US thinks they have a high chance of winning because their sailors spent 8+ years doing this one specific type of sailing in high school and college. I like team racing but I don't think any other country is going to jump at that idea of having some 2 day event thrown together at the last minute in an entirely different boat that requires a skill set that is largely different from the one they spent the past quad training. If the US wants more medals they should be lobbying for some freestyle kiting type event. We do well in "extreme/action" sports. Also what sort of boat are they going to suggest? it can't be run in FJs/420s as that would be laughed out the room. Zim 15s? completely new class? AUS should lobby for mixed gender 18s, that requires teamwork, is an international class, can be run in light and heavy wind and makes for good TV.
  2. Youth evolution in sailing

    usually its the one doing the sucking that has to say daddy
  3. Closed Gate on race course

    short course with the start/finish line in the middle is torturous and takes away too many lanes, a long course with the start/finish in the middle isn't so bad
  4. Youth evolution in sailing

    The main gripes with college sailing should be that it is concentrated into two powerhouse regions with a speckling of good programs outside the NE. There is massive disparity between well funded varsity level programs and club teams that get a small stipend from the school and have to recruit kids that have never sailed before and teach them the basics on their own, this has gotten so lopsided that two regions may as well be dead. My personal gripe with this is the effect it has on the local youth sailing scene, where the focus on these scholastic boats becomes paramount to the point that all other aspects of racing dinghies is ignored. Yes the boat handling is great but you can only do so much with a 3:1 vang and a pinned rig on a 20 minute course. You can drop any youth sailor who has campaigned their own laser/29er/c420 on the national circuit into a scholastic/collegiete boat and they will be able to handle it, the opposite way is much harder in my experience. and since it is important to always say something nice. I do like the fact that it gets a lot of kids out on the water that otherwise would not have access.
  5. Square heads

    my understanding was that they needed to measure in under the mast tip but once rig tension got put on thing got a little creative
  6. Does your dinghy have a name?

    slow ass over priced piece of shit
  7. Future Olympic lightweight-female dinghy

    I don't think that would be much of an issue unless it was adopted as an institutional youth trainer as well. Plus most of the younger Team USA sailors are on college sailing teams now and campaign their boat in the off season
  8. opti's (sic) rule

    kids can't walk across the street without both parents and a nannies supervision you really think you could send preteens out in a boat unsupervised in 2018. Any youth sport with a large amount of participants is going to have some asshats in it just ignore and move on.
  9. How much does areo drag matter?

    There is a whole section about this in Higher Performance Sailing, IIRC 13 percent of the total drag comes from the rig although I don't have the book in front of me to check. That whole chapter in the book is really interesting and the tests from shroud size to getting the crew/skipper to trap on the same plane sheds light on things easy to overlook.
  10. Olympic Classes for Paris 2024

    a large portion of youth sailing is mixed gender whether it is scholastic sailing or olympic development classes. The only single gender event we have are junior womens events and boys/girls state otherwise it is all mixed. If anything this more closely resembles how the next generation of sailors currently race.
  11. Crossbow fl 2017

    why don't you just market it as a fast radio controlled boat instead of going bankrupt trying to make an overly complicated and prohibitively expensive full sized boat.
  12. Club 420 Sail Numbers

    there should be a c420 class sticker in the back of the boat somewhere, usually port side tank, with the number. it's not the serial number on the transom. You don't have to sail the boat with its assigned number though.
  13. Why don't more people race?

    too busy buying avocados and toast.
  14. THIEVES!!! junior Regatta night shoppers

    "I got the nanny to stop at the chandlery and bought it with my monthly allowance on the CC you gave me"
  15. From FP kids getting killed

    How is US Sailing supposed to stop these things? Send inspectors around to observe programs and revoke their status? How are they going to check thousands of programs in nine weeks? Most programs are already at the mercy of their clubs membership who may not always want things ran the way US Sailing recommends, some might even see splitting from US Sailing as a benefit. There are not very many stand alone educational sailing organizations that have the luxury of not going through endless bureaucracy to change up their safety policies every year or the resources to make substantial change. There's not much US Sailing can do but shrug and say "make sure your instructors are not being negligent" Several years ago there was a very prominent story of a kid who got checked from behind in a hockey game and was paralyzed from the neck down. Kids still play hockey last I checked.