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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. DNA F4 is on its way to Antigua.... And all this stuff is going to fly with them !
  2. Well said Chris ! Happy you put that straight. Too many negativeness always on this Forum . As builder and designer of the G4, Holland Composites / DNA wants to state that we are sorry about the latest developments at GB, and also feel sorry for all people involved. We are confident Gunboat will come back stronger and more focused then ever . Concerning the G4 project : this is not affected by the situation as Holland Composites is a independent company running the design and build for the G4 . Holland Composites continues developing,building and marketing the G4 with Gunboat as we ever did . The second boat is hitting the water soon, with all the improvements based on the experience racing and (off shore ) cruising the boat the last year. It will be safer, faster and easier to foil. The first computer assisted foiling boat available! All the best to the Gunboat team !
  3. At Holland Composites we are currently finalizing the G4's hydraulics, once the configuration is absolutely final we will provide an update. A snippet of the forthcoming flight control; fully hydraulic main and traveller, boards move up and down with hydraulic rams although nice trick will be to work with the (fast) rake control and the angle of attack to get boards up or down - with limited boat speed there is still the ram to assist. Rudders receive rake control too for easy adjustment on the fly. Fast sensors provide input on heel, pitch etc yet also acceleration loads so we can anticipate rather than have a plain reactive system. Quick release dumps. System allows for configuration to suit individual sailor skill levels. As Doug mentions, it is two parties - Gunboat & Holland Composites - spreading the word. We have been focusing on the development and build until the first sea trials and now have time to leave the yard again, and welcome first hand input from prospective owners. As such we were with Gunboat at the Newport Boat Show and we may attend other shows, however we won't join every US boat show. When we went sailing during the Newport show we were calibrating the regeneration function of the electric propulsion, we had the guys from Oceanvolt at the show so it proved a good opportunity to do the finetuning there. Under regen we are restricted to 15 knots of boat speed, hence not going flat out.
  4. The G4 is definitely available. We - Holland Composites - are building no. 2 and have just returned from the Newport Boat Show where Gunboat exhibited the first G4. Mowgli is right (sorry you could not make it at the tour), we have been working on automation of the foils and rudders in the last few months. For any questions please contact the Gunboat sales team or Holland Composites sales team (dna@hollandcomposites.nl), we are happy to follow up. Mr Clean, can we fill you in? Check our Facebook page for updates.
  5. The G4 just arrived in NC after a 1300 NM trip from Sint Maarten The boat was on a very quick schedule of approx. 96 hrs ( 4 days) until last night the wind died and the last 100 nm was a drifter . 5 days is also not bad for a 40ft! Well done for the 4 person crew onboard !
  6. working on it @ Holland Composites first boat ready before end of this year. www.hollandcomposites.nl https://www.facebook.com/hollandcomposites/photos/pcb.706263339427814/706261376094677/?type=1&theater https://www.facebook.com/hollandcomposites/posts/706263339427814