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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. lost at sea?

    I have been reading about this latest “crisis” to befall the Volvo Ocean Race, formerly known as the Whitbread Round the World Race, and can only smile. Yup the VOR has finally grown up; the suits are “officially” in charge. OK for those that have not been following a couple of things. The Volvo Ocean Race bills itself, and rightly so, as the preeminent fully crewed offshore ocean race and the 13th edition is about to set sail from Alicante, Spain this weekend. With just over a week to go to the start of the race one of the teams, Team AkzoNobel, decided that it was a swell idea to can it’s skipper. Can, as in fire him, or to put it in PR-speak, he was ‘invited to stay on but declined.’ The (former) skipper is the Dutch sailor Simeon Tienpont who has participated in two previous VOR races and has also been part of a winning America’s Cup team. Clearly the guy is qualified and he put together a formidable crew that includes Brad Jackson, an old mate of mine who is a Watch Captain, and Jules Salter a three-time veteran of the race. Did I mention that the next Volvo Ocean Race starts this weekend? Before I get too deep in the weeds here I must note that I really don’t have a clue what actually happened. (we do, click here. - ed). Both sides have (presumably) lawyered-up and the statements coming from both sides are as vague as a hookers perfume after a long night…:) I have, however, been in this game for a long time and I can smell a suit from a mile away. Tienpont, cleverly, wrote a lucrative deal with his sponsor before becoming engaged with them. AkzoNobel is, according to their website, “a leading global paints and coatings company and a major producer of specialty chemicals.” Fair enough and I can see why they would probably like to align themselves with a global brand like the Volvo Ocean Race especially since the idea of the VOR is all about being clean; as in the wind is free and the water is pure, and they make chemicals which I am guessing are not so clean or pure. But I digress. It seems that AkzoNobel has been less than impressed with the performance of their skipper and his management team, Steam Ocean B.V. There was, apparently, a cost overrun on some things and AkzoNobel used this as an excuse to terminate their contract with Steam Ocean B.V. In other words the “suits” got involved. Let me digress one more time. The very best thing that happened to the VOR was the appointment of Mark Turner as CEO. There are few people more qualified to run this race but less than a year into his term Mark is out. Resigned I believe (or was he pushed…:)? Mark had many interesting and innovative ideas of how to bring this iconic event into the 21 century but it seems he might have fallen afoul of the bean counters. And he is out. Late this afternoon there was a report that the aforementioned Brad Jackson has been appointed as skipper of AkzoNobel. Good for him and I am sure he will deliver but I have to wonder where you draw the line. Loyalty to your mate and the guy who hired you, or loyalty to the pay check that will come as skipper. That goes for the rest of the crew. They too could have resigned in protest and I read that there were plenty of rumblings on that note, but a job is a job and a paycheck is a paycheck so I don’t blame them. But I do blame the suits for their heavy handedness. One thing that sets a winning team apart from the rest is crew morale. I am sure that crew morale is at a low ebb on the good ship AkzoNobel. So back to where I started. The Volvo Ocean Race has finally grown up and come of age. It’s now about money, bean counters, egos and suits. Surely this is a sign of a well developed event? Don’t you agree? Brian Hancock
  2. shipping a 16' runabout on trailer

    damn that was easy!
  3. guys - anyone know the cheapest way to get a 16' runabout with outboard on a trailer from new york to san diego?
  4. blooper time!

    ain't that the truth! i was kidding about getting a new one. i'm fuckin nuts, but even i have my limits.
  5. blooper time!

    dude that is awesome but i don't think we had one. and it takes an old fuck to remember that race, you old fuck.
  6. blooper time!

    Or is it? Here's a question that at first has the obvious answer of "NO", and that is once we start sailing the Santa Cruz 33 Anarchy III (first race is the CRA Halloween Regatta October 28), do you think we should fly the blooper that came with the boat? Pictured here is the Santa Cruz 33 Freight Train sailed by Gary Swenson in the (we think) 1977 Santa Barbara to King Harbor race. It is obviously working in the pic, but would it today? If it does, we'll have a new one built! Jump in and let the insults fly!
  7. what is it?

    a nice one would be such a cool classic to own....perhaps one day!
  8. shocking! they put the results for 2016 after the cowards took them down for reasons only they could tell. but they never will. too bad they didn't let us go. we would have won class in a landslide and likely won overall too.
  9. Any info on this boat?

    here's what I know: head for the hills. a piggy total pos. free is too much. you'd need 75k just to get it decent.
  10. of course the dolts at swyc don't have results posted. what happened?
  11. Are you going to buy the boat?

    holy shit that is funny! mythical front page, here you come!
  12. what is it?

    yep, me too. anybody been down below one of these things?
  13. what is it?

    funny, i saw that too. i think they might be on backwards???