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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Im trying to get a handle on this J24 business. My friend can no longer sail and has to part with his J24. I have offered to move it for him ---but don't know what the market for it is like. It is on a mooring in Pittwater, behind Scotland Island and the mooring goes with the boat. At present it needs a good bottom clean, and bilge water pumping out. Its suit of sails is good, and there is a lot of equipment. I have no idea what it's market value would be. Can any kind sailor advise me on this.
  2. Redreuben. Why do you say the B28 plans are freely available. I have yet to hear of a full size paper set of plans available. Pdfs printed out A4 size are difficult to produce as full size sheets and the average guy is not able to do that. I am looking for the day when someone produces a full set of paper plans, with building instructions and material list, plus backup construction support, at a reasonable price. That is not available at the present time.
  3. Regarding older Aus fast Multies. Joe Farinaccio, the "Small Tri Guy" has posted this about a forty three year old Lock Crowther design. Heres a good read. - http://smalltrimarans.com/blog/?p=11744 And this:- http://smalltrimarans.com/blog/?p=11664
  4. Still would like to know about that Kraken 40 up north,with the name RINGO on it. The original Ringo was Kraken 40 #1, and was built in Canada. Won the 1969 NY-Bermuda race and was then sold to that Californian guy who buggered it up. It became too heavy and never reached it's original performance levels. Can't imagine it ending up in Oz
  5. You Said:- So... my options are to build or buy. I have the original plans, here are the basic specs: You have the Dwgs and specs, why can't you just make another board, laminated from straight grained Cedar, shaped to section and sheathed with three layers of glass/epoxy.
  6. What ever happened to the CYRA. They used to organise the races for the 12 clubs around Toronto harbour. Each club sponsored one race of the 12 races of the 12 week racing season, every Saturday, come rain or shine. All sailboats were accepted (yes, even multihulls) and sailed in four separate classes, starting at 5 min intervals. Small first, then Medium, Large and Multihulls last. All competing boats would raft up at the sponsoring clubs docks and enjoy a party after the finish. "Bonoventure", a C & C 60, was the biggest boat then, but we would routinely beat her, boat for boat. After the race the big winch apes crewing her would come and sit all over our boat with their tinnies, to chat up our all Girl crew. Happy Days.
  7. Yeah. Buccaneer 24 plans are now freely available, and B28 also,but not quite so freely. What we really need now is B33 plans and (please, please) Kraken 40 plans. I raced on "Ringo' , the first K40, and crewed with Logan Apperley on his K40, "Mana Moana". I have always considered that the K40 was an ideal fast cruiser for four people. As for old designs, Samnz (now Samin) was beating the crap out of the more "modern" tris with his old Green B24 before he graduated to the 8.5 M class.
  8. In the last 44 years I have never heard of a Crowther Buccaneer 24 capsize or pitchpole. More than 200 of them have been cruised and raced, so that fact sounds most improbable. If anyone has knowledge of one tipping I would be really interested in hearing the details.
  9. That Crowther Cat is dead ringer to his first Catana style design, "Bagatelle", built for Lindsay Cummings in 1979-80. Bagatelle was 15' shorter by the length of the scoop step at the transom, and had bulbs at the bottom of the stem, otherwise she is pretty well the same. She was a delight to sail, moving out in an effortless way. Unfortunately she was wrecked on the Great Barrier reef. Lindsay was recompensed by the insurance company. The still floating wreck was bought by a Brisbane man who, after a long and arduous re-build now has her intact and sailing again.
  10. Talking about the Susan Hood and other great races like the Summerville, --triangular overnight courses across Lake Ontario, starting and finishing at Toronto. What happened to the CYRA, that great combination of the 12 yacht clubs, who would host the 12 races, one each week, for the three months of the racing season. What is the setup now??
  11. I have always had a "Soft Spot" for the Ariki. It seems to be about the right size for fast ocean sailing and also have adequate room inside for a small family. I was able to go aboard a Tehini in Toronto Canada in 1976. The builder had used steel "I" beams for the cross arms. The boat was very rigid and sailed well. I was very impressed.
  12. Last i heard a guy was restoring/rebuilding "Bagatelle" in Cairns. Has anyone heard about it ??
  13. Anyone know what happened to Logan Apperlys Kraken 40, "Mana Moana". She broke the Sydney-NZ record on her maiden voyage with Lock Crowther aboard. Logan sold her after she was pitchpoled in Manly(NSW)Harbour. Also "Ringo" Dave Greens Kraken 40 which set a record for the New York-Bermuda race. Ringo was sold to Mike Kane in So Cal and I don't know what happened to her either
  14. Ian. I am so glad to see you still use the word "Floats" to describe the outer hulls on a trimaran. All this uppity use of polynesian words like Akas, Amas and Vakas--------------is just Nackers.
  15. I think it's more a case of extreme complication and decreased reliability, plus the need to rely on an engine running all the time to supply the hydraulic pressure versus the speed/stability gains. In other words it follows the law of diminishing returns.